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The Best Album Of All Time - Guns n' Roses v Mars Volta

Which is the better album?

  • Guns n' Roses - Appetite for Destruction

    Votes: 18 85.7%
  • Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium

    Votes: 3 14.3%

  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .

milo

Jack L. Jones
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Appetite for Destruction is the debut studio album by American hard rock band Guns N' Roses, released on July 21, 1987 on Geffen Records. It was well received by critics and topped the American Billboard 200 chart. As of September 2008, the album has been certified 18 times Platinum by the RIAA, making it the best-selling record released on Geffen.[6] The album is featured in the book 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die.[7]

Axl Rose stated that many of the songs featured on the album had been written while the band had been performing on the Los Angeles club circuit, and a number of songs that would be featured on later Guns N' Roses albums were considered for Appetite for Destruction, such as "Back Off Bitch", "You Could Be Mine", "November Rain" and "Don't Cry". It is said that the reason for not putting "November Rain" on it was because they had already agreed to put "Sweet Child 'O Mine" on it and thus already had a ballad on the album (however, both Use Your Illusion albums would contain more than one ballad).[8][9]

The band started searching for someone to produce their debut, mostly recommendations made by Geffen executives Alan Niven and Tom Zutaut. Demos were recorded under both Manny Charlton and Spencer Proffer, with some work made with the latter being issued in the EP Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide.[10] One of the interviewed prospects was Kiss's Paul Stanley, rejected after insisting on changes to Steven Adler's drum setup and the songs. The band considered Robert John "Mutt" Lange, but he proved too expensive to hire. Eventually Mike Clink, who had produced several Triumph records, was chosen,[11] for being the first to record the band exactly the way they wanted.[10]

After some weeks of rehearsal, the band entered Daryl Dragon's Rumbo Recorders in January 1987. Two weeks were spent recording basic tracks, with Clink splicing together the best takes with his razor blade. Clink worked eighteen-hour days for the next month, with Slash overdubbing in the afternoon and evening, and Rose performing vocals. Slash struggled to find a guitar sound before coming up with a Gibson Les Paul copy plugged into a Marshall amplifier. He spent hours with Clink paring down and structuring his solos. The total budget for the album was about $370,000.[9] According to drummer Steven Adler, the percussion was done in just six days, but Rose's vocals took much longer as he insisted on doing them one line at a time, in a perfectionism that drove the rest of the band away from the studio as he worked.[12]

Many of the songs on Appetite For Destruction began as solo tracks that individual band members wrote separate from the band, only to be completed later. These songs include "It's So Easy" (Duff McKagan) and "Think About You" (Izzy Stradlin). "Rocket Queen" was an unfinished Slash/McKagan/Adler song that was written from their earlier band Road Crew, whereas "Anything Goes", written by Hollywood Rose and included in their compilation album The Roots of Guns N' Roses, was later re-written for Appetite.

Most of the songs on the album reflect the band's personal experiences and daily life, such as "Welcome to the Jungle", some of the lyrics of which Rose wrote after he encountered a man in New York shortly after arriving there from Indiana in 1980,[13] and "Mr. Brownstone", which is about the band's problems with heroin. Lyrics to some of the songs focus on the band members' younger years, like "Out ta Get Me", which focuses on lead singer Axl Rose's constant trouble with the law as a youth in Indiana.[14] The band also based song lyrics on some of their female friends, reflected in the songs "Sweet Child o' Mine", "My Michelle", "You're Crazy", and "Rocket Queen".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appetite_for_Destruction

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De-Loused in the Comatorium is the debut studio album by American progressive rock band The Mars Volta, released on June 24, 2003 on Gold Standard Laboratories and Universal Records. Based on a short story written by lead singer Cedric Bixler-Zavala and sound manipulation artist Jeremy Michael Ward, the concept album is an hour-long tale of Cerpin Taxt, a man who enters a week-long coma after overdosing on a mixture of morphine and rat poison. The story of Cerpin Taxt alludes to the death of El Paso, Texas artist — and Bixler-Zavala's friend — Julio Venegas (1972–1996).

Co-produced by Rick Rubin and guitarist Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, it is the only studio album to feature founding member Jeremy Michael Ward, who was found dead in an apparent heroin overdose one month before the album was released. Following the departure of Eva Gardner, Red Hot Chili Peppers bassist Flea occupied the role of bass guitarist on this album.

The music contained in De-Loused is distinguished by its enigmatic lyrics, latin and jazz rhythms, and Omar Rodríguez-López's frenetic guitar riffs, which are often strongly dissonant. The title of this album is taken from the lyrics of the song "Eunuch Provocateur" on the band's previous release, Tremulant. The cover artwork is by Storm Thorgerson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Loused_in_the_Comatorium

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thats the first time i've heard mars volta to be honest

voting for Gn'R though, its certainly my favourite album of all time, when i first heard it (not in 87 sadly as i was too young) it completely blew my mind, i became obsessed with it, wore out the cassette within weeks, its the album that got me into hard rock/metal, i found so much stuff that i'd never heard of before once i ventured into time records in colchester to hunt for a copy of lies on vinyl rather than buying my music in woolworths

its perfect
 
no way Mars Volta will beat Guns n Roses judging by the initial thread we had.

which is a shame as it's probably my favorite album, everyone who likes alternative rock should give it a listen
 
no way Mars Volta will beat Guns n Roses judging by the initial thread we had.

which is a shame as it's probably my favorite album, everyone who likes alternative rock should give it a listen

I'm going to before deciding who to vote for.

I bought Appetite for Destruction when it was released but sold my copy when I went off metal. I like it a lot now and think that it is damn fine rock and roll album.
 
MVs a bit of an acquired taste it has to be said - didn't really grab me right away when i first bought the album - remember a mate playing to me and a few others one time at his house when we were younger and thinking wtf is this? :eek: definitely a grower and im not sure id appreciate at if i was listening to it now rather than at an age where i was able to throw myself in to more experimental music
 
MVs a bit of an acquired taste it has to be said - didn't really grab me right away when i first bought the album - remember a mate playing to me and a few others one time at his house when we were younger and thinking wtf is this? :eek: definitely a grower and im not sure id appreciate at if i was listening to it now rather than at an age where i was able to throw myself in to more experimental music

Wikipedia describing it as prog didn't make me immediately want to check it out but I definitely want to give it a fair listen before voting.
 
The equivalent of Germany v Saudi Arabia. The only time it is okay to cheer on the Gunners.
 
I do like how we stuck with the original album cover for this thread. Is one of the classics for sure.
 
Had a listen to Mars Volta and it unfortunately done absolutely nothing for me.

Appetite is in my top 5 albums of all time. An absolute belter that sounds as good now as it did when it was released. A classic.
 
I have a feeling this will be a whitewash. I'll throw my vote in for Appetite and make it worse.
 
Mars over Snickers every ****ing time. Axl is a **** but appetite is a great album..
 
I've given Mars Volta a listen and it doesn't do much for me. Very over blown. I'm yet to find an album with a sleeve by Storm Thorgerson that I like.
 
Those that don't vote Appetite here should be banned from further participation in this contest.


:-"
 
AfD all the way.

That album is like musical assault - but you just want more.

From the very first notes of welcome to the jungle, you know it means business and **** anything that gets in the way.

And a very solid album all the way through - even the weak songs are good.
 
I dig Mars Volta, had a period where I listened to everything they did, must've been when I was like 16/17, but I can't vote for anything but G'n'R here. AFD is a blast, even though I can't stand Welcome To The Jungle, Paradise City or Sweet Child of Mine it doesn't mean I don't recognize them as very good songs, just that Rocket Queen and Mr. Brownstone are the cream of the crop. Going to play those songs really really loud on my way home from work.
 
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