Daniel Levy - Chairman

[Finney Is Back]

Maybe, but what has that got to do with munn?

Cheap stop-gap who was prepared to come in and have pretty much zero say in things. The quid pro quo for him is getting to increase his profile so that he might get a job at (e.g.) Championship club level for his next assignment, which is a step up in his football career compared to where he was.

 

[DubSpur]

Cheap stop-gap who was prepared to come in and have pretty much zero say in things. The quid pro quo for him is getting to increase his profile so that he might get a job at (e.g.) Championship club level for his next assignment, which is a step up in his football career compared to where he was.

To be honest it just sounds like you're making a far-fetched scenario up with zero fact behind it with Levy as some Machiavellian character. Think it's more realistic that he was hired to do a job, end of.

 

[Lilbaz]

Cheap stop-gap who was prepared to come in and have pretty much zero say in things. The quid pro quo for him is getting to increase his profile so that he might get a job at (e.g.) Championship club level for his next assignment, which is a step up in his football career compared to where he was.

Munn is not a dof.

 

[Grays_1890]

Cheap stop-gap who was prepared to come in and have pretty much zero say in things. The quid pro quo for him is getting to increase his profile so that he might get a job at (e.g.) Championship club level for his next assignment, which is a step up in his football career compared to where he was.

He is effectively coming in as the Chairman of the footballing side of Spurs, absolutely zero chance Fab comes back anywhere near that level.

If anything the club might decide the consultancy side works better and they forgo the DOF role, if not I would expect a new DOF

 

[Finney Is Back]

To be honest it just sounds like you're making a far-fetched scenario up with zero fact behind it with Levy as some Machiavellian character. Think it's more realistic that he was hired to do a job, end of.

I don’t think he is Machiavellian at all. I just find it strange for a club as big as Spurs, playing in the biggest football league in the World to appoint somebody who has only worked in a minor footballing jurisdiction. It strikes me as most likely either a cheap option or a temporary option, maybe both?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I don’t think he is Machiavellian at all. I just find it strange for a club as big as Spurs, playing in the biggest football league in the World to appoint somebody who has only worked in a minor footballing jurisdiction. It strikes me as most likely either a cheap option or a temporary option, maybe both?

Come on
He has been part of very of very successful global business in this sector in a senior role. That could mean he is deemed to be capable and talented

let me put it another way…
If you had a manager who had coached for around 3 1/2 seasons. Left a club in relegation places and then helped a club in a top league move league position by a whole 3 places… would you appoint him?

 

[Grays_1890]

Come on
He has been part of very of very successful global business in this sector in a senior role. That could mean he is deemed to be capable and talented

let me put it another way…
If you had a manager who had coached for around 3 1/2 seasons. Left a club in relegation places and then helped a club in a top league move league position by a whole 3 places… would you appoint him?

And we are not asking him to play up top to replace Kane or even take a day to day role earning the respect of the players, he is there to make sure the club works effectively from an organisation and operations perspective which improves the footballing side. Aligning the youth side with the first team and making sure the manager and DOF have a better handle of the squad management (meaning we don't stock pile players) and having those areas as a focus rather than having one eye on the club and one eye on the F1 commercial side does not require footballing knowledge, it takes working in a huge operation knowledge and a hyper focus which is why most CEOs of companies successfully change sectors successfully.

He has also worked for major teams and organisations in other sports, just because its not football does not mean the operational side of his skills is not transferable. You don't need to have worked in top level football to look at a club and look at why the organisation does not work or how to align it to give you a better chance.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

And we are not asking him to play up top to replace Kane or even take a day to day role earning the respect of the players, he is there to make sure the club works effectively from an organisation and operations perspective which improves the footballing side. Aligning the youth side with the first team and making sure the manager and DOF have a better handle of the squad management (meaning we don't stock pile players) and having those areas as a focus rather than having one eye on the club and one eye on the F1 commercial side does not require footballing knowledge, it takes working in a huge operation knowledge and a hyper focus which is why most CEOs of companies successfully change sectors successfully.

He has also worked for major teams and organisations in other sports, just because its not football does not mean the operational side of his skills is not transferable. You don't need to have worked in top level football to look at a club and look at why the organisation does not work or how to align it to give you a better chance.

I have no idea how good he is
But I think any comments and critiques before he even joins are just daft

 

[Grays_1890]

I have no idea how good he is
But I think any comments and critiques before he even joins are just daft

Me either but I think snearing at his record which is clearly high level, albeit in different sports and countries is just typically Spurs snobbery before the guys even had a chance. You don't sit on Olympic committees and have a track record of building up clubs from nothing to something over multiple sports and countries and not have abit about you.

 

[Finney Is Back]

Come on
He has been part of very of very successful global business in this sector in a senior role. That could mean he is deemed to be capable and talented

let me put it another way…
If you had a manager who had coached for around 3 1/2 seasons. Left a club in relegation places and then helped a club in a top league move league position by a whole 3 places… would you appoint him?

What were the circumstances that manager coached in? What budgets did he have? Were both jobs in a top league?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

What were the circumstances that manager coached in? What budgets did he have? We’re both jobs in a top league?

Yes they were
One team he took down the league and the other he took up 3 places
But … the football was pretty
The financials were that in the one that went up the disgusting he got to spend money
In the one that he left bottom he didn’t

 

[Finney Is Back]

Yes they were
One team he took down the league and the other he took up 3 places
But … the football was pretty
The financials were that in the one that went up the disgusting he got to spend money
In the one that he left bottom he didn’t

How much money (net) did he have to spend? Were his competitors spending more money? Did he have to lose his best players to other teams? What position in the table were both clubs when he took over? Where was each club typically expected to finish? How did their wage budget compare to their fellow league members? etc?

 

[Lilbaz]

I don’t think he is Machiavellian at all. I just find it strange for a club as big as Spurs, playing in the biggest football league in the World to appoint somebody who has only worked in a minor footballing jurisdiction. It strikes me as most likely either a cheap option or a temporary option, maybe both?

He covered 4 clubs in asia/aus. 3 of whom won their leagues last season. One of the clubs he helped start. He is a business man. He is coming in to take work from levy not work as a dof or replace paratici.

Unless ofcourse you don't think he could do as good a job as levy?

 

[Finney Is Back]

He covered 4 clubs in asia/aus. 3 of whom won their leagues last season. One of the clubs he helped start. He is a business man. He is coming in to take work from levy not work as a dof or replace paratici.

Unless ofcourse you don't think he could do as good a job as levy?

So who is running the football side of things then seeing as we’re still without a DoF?

 

[DubSpur]

So who is running the football side of things then seeing as we’re still without a DoF?

Munn has overall responsibility for the football side of things, so I'd guess him with Paratici as a consultant and the recruitment team. Levy will probably get involved in the likes of the Kane deal. We've had plenty of years without a DoF so it's not something that we haven't done before.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

How much money (net) did he have to spend? Were his competitors spending more money? Did he have to lose his best players to other teams? What position in the table were both clubs when he took over? Where was each club typically expected to finish? How did their wage budget compare to their fellow league members? etc?

no idea
That’s the due diligence you do when appointing someone

 

[Finney Is Back]

no idea
That’s the due diligence you do when appointing someone

Without those answers I can’t answer whether I would appoint that manager or not, I don’t know if he has done really well, really badly or given a par performance without knowing those parameters.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Without those answers I can’t answer whether I would appoint that manager or not, I don’t know if he has done really well, really badly or given a par performance without knowing those parameters.

But that’s the kicker
Your saying Munn is a cheap option and not successful (I may be wrong in your comment) but you don’t know
We certainly don’t know the facts behind his appointment and why the club have gone for him

 

[Finney Is Back]

But that’s the kicker
Your saying Munn is a cheap option and not successful (I may be wrong in your comment) but you don’t know
We certainly don’t know the facts behind his appointment and why the club have gone for him

Indeed, none of us know. I get criticism on here for saying I don’t think he is a good appointment. However those who think he is a good appointment equally have nothing at all to back that opinion up.

I just think it is very strange for a club with income in the top 10 of all football teams in the World to make an appointment like this when there are some real, proven heavy hitters already working in Europe that we could’ve secured with the right offer and conditions of employment.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Indeed, none of us know. I get criticism on here for saying I don’t think he is a good appointment. However those who think he is a good appointment equally have nothing at all to back that opinion up.

I just think it is very strange for a club with income in the top 10 of all football teams in the World to make an appointment like this when there are some real, proven heavy hitters already working in Europe that we could’ve secured with the right offer and conditions of employment.

And again we got Poch in
His record wasn’t on par with many alternatives when we brought him in
It didn’t turn out bad in hindsight