I think players would come on loan, we don't need world beaters. Just people who can do a job for a few months. I know we got Kinsky but you could also interpret it as he's gone in the summer so we don't want to spend any money now.
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Ange in or out?
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I think players would come on loan, we don't need world beaters. Just people who can do a job for a few months. I know we got Kinsky but you could also interpret it as he's gone in the summer so we don't want to spend any money now.
RunTMC
Stephen Clemence
I don’t Ange is the man for the job. But I’d like to see the change made at the end of the season rather than mid season. If the injured players come back and there is still a real danger of relegation then pull the trigger.
I think that's where I am at - a loss at home to Leicester will probably (rightly) bring the situation to a head though
Robspur12
Frederic Kanoute
I did think he was likeable. I liked the way in the beginning he didn't criticise refs and appeared to have integrity missing in other managers. His honesty felt refreshing even when I didn't necessarily agree with him, for example his views on VAR.
But put him under pressure and that integrity seemingly goes out of the window. He'll criticise and insinuate against referees with the best of them and he comes across as a petulant bully during interviews. Tie that in with a naivete I didn't think was possible in a supposed top level coach and he has quickly lost his appeal.
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Robspur12
Frederic Kanoute
Only because it's harder to get someone in at this stage. Otherwise for me he should be gone as he's in a spiral of decline that I think he will struggle to come out of.
Look at the players we got rid of in the summer. Any other ceo that had signed some of these off would be sacked on the spot. He’s bald nepo baby never held accountable for his continued mistakes. Its just embarrassing. And this was one summer of his fudge ups being shipped!
| Oliver Skipp | 23 | Leicester City | €20.71 million |
| Emerson Royal | 25 | AC Milan | €13.21 million |
| Joe Rodon | 26 | Leeds United | €10.39 million |
| Eric Dier | 30 | Bayern Munich | Free Transfer |
| Ryan Sessegnon | 24 | Fulham FC | Free Transfer |
| Tanguy Ndombélé | 27 | OGC Nice | Free Transfer |
| Ivan Perisic | 35 | HNK Hajduk Split | Free Transfer |
| Japhet Tanganga | 25 | Millwall FC | Free Transfer |
| Pierre-Emile Højbjerg | 28 | Olympique Marseille | Loan Transfer |
| Bryan Gil | 23 | Girona FC | Loan Transfer |
| Manor Solomon | 25 | Leeds United | Loan Transfer |
| Alejo Veliz | 20 | RCD Espanyol Barcelona | Loan Transfer |
| Ashley Phillips | 19 | Stoke City | Loan Transfer |
| Dane Scarlett | 20 | Oxford United | Loan Transfer |
Ange is not the problem here.
Muttley
Ronnie Rosenthal
The problem in my mind is that he didn't compromise his principles. He just kept them going in a different formation. He never went to Everton to come away with minimally a draw. He never played a number 6 that wasn't told to press high up their half. We never looked solid from the get go, even though we looked sort of OK in phases.
I'd love to see Spurs in a half of football stalemate with both teams negating each other. That would be progress.
SteveAWOL
Paul Stewart
Wonder if any of the Japanese journalists have these cameras in their shoes?! As they’d be perfect for interviewing Postecoglou
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Wtf? No i don't remember. But well done mystic meg. Can tell a managers credentials from a game where we had 9 men and 2 major injuries and actually played really well considering. Hats óff to you. Have a badge or something.
Muttley
Ronnie Rosenthal
So out of those 8 players, 2 were on loan and had no 1st team impact.
2 Ange refused to give barely any opportunity ot in the 1st team setup.
2 were long term injuries.
So we're actually talking about Ange losing 2 players that participated - Hoj and Emerson. That would be offset in the ones he got coming the other way.
Ange isn't blameless. He is both the victim and the beneficiary of the great squad churn we've been working through.
I would advise the club to finish the job they started. There has been so much good work done and we're well set for the future.
Go on then, which of those players specifically would get someone the sack for signing them?
SteveAWOL
Paul Stewart
2 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses against the bottom 5. Hopefully can win those 6 pointers with Leicester and Ipswich before we get dragged into the mire.
Everton 4-0 2-3
Wolves 2-2 TBC
Ipswich 1-2 TBC
Leicester TBC 1-1
So’ton TBC 5-0
Any of these fit the bill?
| Oliver Skipp | 23 | Leicester City | €20.71 million |
| Emerson Royal | 25 | AC Milan | €13.21 million |
| Joe Rodon | 26 | Leeds United | €10.39 million |
| Eric Dier | 30 | Bayern Munich | Free Transfer |
| Ryan Sessegnon | 24 | Fulham FC | Free Transfer |
| Tanguy Ndombélé | 27 | OGC Nice | Free Transfer |
| Ivan Perisic | 35 | HNK Hajduk Split | Free Transfer |
| Japhet Tanganga | 25 | Millwall FC | Free Transfer |
| Pierre-Emile Højbjerg | 28 | Olympique Marseille | Loan Transfer |
| Bryan Gil | 23 | Girona FC | Loan Transfer |
| Manor Solomon | 25 | Leeds United | Loan Transfer |
| Alejo Veliz | 20 | RCD Espanyol Barcelona | Loan Transfer |
| Ashley Phillips | 19 | Stoke City | Loan Transfer |
| Dane Scarlett | 20 | Oxford United | Loan Transfer |
Jobbing players for new jobbing players?
Its madness. Utter madness.
Levy still believes dele, Toby, Eric, Son, Harry, Kyle, Jan and Kieron was just normal and not the fluke of the century. ( bar Leicester )
We haven’t had a signing like those in nearly 7 years. Mickey is the closest we’ve had since and sadly he’s injury prone.
On paper you wouldn't fancy us away from home v either Wolves or Ipswich given the home results.
He is the victim here. Another two. Lo Celso. Reguillon.
Awful signings but those 2 add up to the squad too.
Presumably you think Levy scouted &/or recommended Ndombele then? Or that he should be held accountable for buying players that his manager or DOF wanted?
He was the guy that signed the checks. He was also known for being very involved in football matters. Its in Pochs book and he has only ‘changed’ since Conte left. Conte and Moureeno said he was too involved and a nightmare.
Even so. He is responsible. If he wasn’t a nepo baby he would very much be held accountable to his multiple fudge ups in the last quarter of a century.
Muttley
Ronnie Rosenthal
More proof that our manager won't use the resources available to him. Reggie has left our manager with egg on his face this season. He's a player at his prime who I would churn eventually. Not using him is stupid. He's played well. Same thing happened with Gio, who Ange wouldn't even put in match day squads. Another one who we needed to churn but should have optimised his talents whilst he was still our player.
There is never one thing that leads to Ange not being the right fit, but there are clues in every single topic that is discussed. They add up to a lot.
SteveAWOL
Paul Stewart
Might be for the best those 6 pointers are away, given we have the worst home form in the PL currently.
Hopefully we can break that habit this weekend.
