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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 87 70.2%
  • Out

    Votes: 37 29.8%

  • Total voters
    124
Assuming it's even worse for the full backs.

Porro hasn't been injured, but he's clearly completely done in
Genetics play a part. Some people's muscles are more or less prone to injury. Sometimes it's lifestyle related also. Players like Cristiano Ronaldo for example were rarely injured in their careers and if you ever look into it he had an absolutely religious diet, recovery and training regime away from his football clubs, whereas some players finish training and may then go slope off, eat c***, play video games or watch TV etc. You are actually at the most prone to muscle injuries where you are sedentary then active. So you just don't know what factors mean that a certain player is plagued by injuries while another doing mostly the same thing isn't.
 
After starting our first 2 Europa away games plus scoring his first senior goal at Galatasaray I’m surprised that Lankshear has only played a grand total of 9 minutes since then (1 minute at Fulham plus the last 8 mins at Southampton) even when Solanke has been unavailable.

Surely Postecoglou can’t be so annoyed with Lankshear getting that 2nd yellow / rate him so lowly that he’d rather play a knackered Son as CF?!
They are the calls I don’t get
He hasn’t used very well what little depth he has IMO
 
You can argue all you want over what he could or couldn't of done but the upshot is we have dropped another couple of points in what should be banker 3 points at home (yes yes I know no such thing blah blah blah) if we're not beating the likes of Palace Ipswich & Wolves where are we going to be getting our points from to turn the season around?
Can we play City every week?
 
Well a CEO is appointed by the board. BTW Levy is an executive chairman not a CEO. He chairs the board and acts as an executive manager of the business.

He's also a beneficiary of some of the offshore trusts that ultimately own ENIC as is Joe Lewis.

So expecting there to he a change any time soon is, I'm afraid, rather fanciful...
So he is basically the person that chooses the board as opposed to the board choosing him. If the board have performed poorly over the past several years that is because he hasn't got the right people/ensured the investments at the right times.

I agree completely with your point that our squad had been mismanaged meaning that we ended up very low on club trained players. However, the ultimate reason for that was the poor structure and investment that had gone into the youth and recruitment departments. Unfortunately because our exec chairman is self-appointed we're stuck with him, especially as the main THFC shareholder only seems to care about his net worth.
Maybe as Lewis' family take over from him they will care more about winning trophies than turning their £3 billion net work into £6 billion of net worth. I fear that until that happens we are hamstrung (a bit like our squad at present! ;) )
 
Yea it's a high intensity system and I imagine the training sessions are high intensity also. Players are going to pick up hamstring and other muscle injuries and not only that I imagine there's also a risk of stress injuries of the feet and knees etc also
you 'imagine'.... None of us actually have any idea so let's not make assumptions based on no knowledge.

Personally I would imagine the opposite of what you imagine. I would've thought that the fitness work is done pre and early season and at the point of the season when games come thick and fast the squad would not be doing much, if any, high intensity stuff.
 
We keep Austin and Whiteman in the squad for club trained purposes. If it wasn't for them.we'd actually struggle to register a compliant UEFA squad, which is testimony to the mismanagement of the football squad over the last decade.
You realise that you can register anywhere between 0 and 4 club trained players for a compliant UEFA squad right?
 
After starting our first 2 Europa away games plus scoring his first senior goal at Galatasaray I’m surprised that Lankshear has only played a grand total of 9 minutes since then (1 minute at Fulham plus the last 8 mins at Southampton) even when Solanke has been unavailable.

Surely Postecoglou can’t be so annoyed with Lankshear getting that 2nd yellow / rate him so lowly that he’d rather play a knackered Son as CF?!
You're right, surely he can't be.

Far more likely is that Postecoglou has watched Lankshear and knows he is nowhere near yet good enough to play reasonably at PL level. Which having watched him numerous times myself I agree with. The player would probably benefit from a loan to a div 1 team at present, though he wouldn't be a guaranteed starter at all div 1 teams.
 
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Heard someone explain the way we play means the muscles are put under high level stress twice for the CB.

First is the recovery sprint putting the hamstring under strain , then it's the last ditch lunge putting under even more stress straight after
Interestingly, I haven't really seen Gray making such runs and lunges when playing centre back for us. He instead looks calm and assured and seems to have time. More than half of being a great centre back is positional sense. I'm going to say this quietly and expect to get somewhat flamed but I think Gray might be a better centre back than Van Der Ven who seems to relish getting into a foot race instead of avoiding that unless completely necessary.
 
If Lankshere is in the squad and our only option as CF backup due to injury of Richarlson then he should absoloutely be getting minutes to ease the load on Solanke whether he's 'ready' or not (I'd imagine he is ready for cameos personally based on what i saw in Istanbul) If Solanke picks up an injury then we're in a much worse spot than if he gets taken off for 10-20 minutes a game here and there.
 
If Lankshere is in the squad and our only option as CF backup due to injury of Richarlson then he should absoloutely be getting minutes to ease the load on Solanke whether he's 'ready' or not. If Solanke picks up an injury then we're in a much worse spot than if he gets taken off for 10-20 m8nutes a game.
Not when you've already got 29.5% of the fanbase (based on the poll in this thread) wanting you out. You need all the points you can get.
 
If Lankshere is in the squad and our only option as CF backup due to injury of Richarlson then he should absoloutely be getting minutes to ease the load on Solanke whether he's 'ready' or not (I'd imagine he is ready for cameos personally based on what i saw in Istanbul) If Solanke picks up an injury then we're in a much worse spot than if he gets taken off for 10-20 minutes a game here and there.

This is a broader question, @thfcsteff talked about it in another thread

- Players today have lots of data, the club, medical department and manager should know how close they are to redlines, how is their recovery time recommended vs. actually getting (and if they don't that's yet another problem)

To me, there is no fudging way Udogie, Porro, Son, Deki, Solanke are not showing up in some kind of redline/at risk data and/or constantly having insufficient recovery time (that's data that you can get on yourself as a regular person working out)
 
Deki said he trained harder and wiser in the summer, to be even better this year.
Son regularly uses the pool and ice baths after training and was alone in the pool in the video the club did with him a few months ago.
So perhaps certain players are doing certain things better, which other players can learn from.
None of us know for sure.
I do notice in those short training videos released by the club, some players look to be doing exercises really properly i.e. full range of motion, and others are dangling a leg and cutting corners a bit.
I suspect that is one of the things Ange notices when he is standing back and observing who does what.
 
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