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  1. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    Brentford did not play good football in isolation, again that’s the entire point I’m trying to make. A team has to deal with the situation their opponents give them the majority of the time. More teams would give Brentford more space because a Brentford game would be one marked on the calendar...
  2. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    You may be right, but in the statements they put out they talk about plating a certain way, and Frank talks about taking risks being one of his key things.
  3. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    Character assassination 😂 come on man. Are people really talking utter jive? I think the core point of teams offering Brentford more space (because they attack them thinking it’s more likely to be a win) than Spurs is true. Racking up goals at Brentford does not translate necessarily to...
  4. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    They played quick and attacked as a pack is entirely the point. Teams did not sit back against them, so he constructed a team that would take advantage of that space. He couldn’t do the same at Spurs. He needed to show intent and initiative. I think it’s perfectly balanced to call it like it...
  5. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    I think part of it is that what passes for good football at Brentford is not the same as at Spurs. We need to be able to seize the initiative. So when Brentford break on City at the Etihad and win 3-1 it looks like good, exciting, dynamic football. But was Frank ever truly tested on breaking...
  6. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    But to bring this back to Vinai in the Vinai thread…do we think that Frank in his interview process explained that he would play football that would be pleasing to the Tottenham fans, but first he would start from a solid base before ‘adding layers’, in the way that his Brentford team also...
  7. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    I’m very open to the idea that RDZ’s football better integrates defensive solidity and attacking intent than Ange’s does. And I do think what RDZ was able to do with a decimated squad completely low on confidence is incredible. But Ange’s ‘football’ was actually very good, very pleasing on the...
  8. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    Nah. To compare Ange and Frank in this way is massively off for me. Not withstanding that Ange never lost the squad and didn’t systematically destroy their confidence, Ange’s football was never as GHod awful as Frank’s. For the simple reason that what we saw from Frank was what Frank actually...
  9. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

    Right, injuries definitely played a part, but the level of fear amongst the squad and the fans is something I’ve never seen. I’ve also rarely seen us as bad as we were in that Chelsea home game, or the opening of the Fulham home game, or the Saudi Sportswashing Machine game. At the point of Chelsea he had a...
  10. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

    I’m fine to continue talking about it when the people who appointed him and said he was the stand out amongst 30 candidates with 10 key criteria are still running the club. Especially when those people then persisted with him through obviously terrible football and results at least 3 months too...
  11. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

    Yep, very much agreed, I actually give Frank a pass on the fitness, to the extent that if he only really wanted to press for 30 minutes of a game then his preparation would be in line with that. If Tudor wanted to do something different, that’s fine but it is different. Otherwise though, I...
  12. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

    Totally agreed. It is way more than not fitting. It was just so utterly bad, and much of it came down to Frank’s decisions. Like…it’s easy to think now the stadium is back behind the team and there’s unity and confidence again. But think back to the Fulham home game, the Palace home game, the...
  13. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    Yeah, on your last point, De Zerbi has fundamentally put to bed the idea that the style of play that we saw at the start of the season was down to the players not being good enough. It took him his until his second game to demonstrate how much improvement could be made, how much control we could...
  14. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    I actually think we supported Frank fine. We got him Palinha, supposedly perfect for his system. We got him RKM even though we already had Solanke and Richy because we knew Solanke was out and we wanted proper depth. We had such a full squad we couldn’t register Tel for the CL. He was able to...
  15. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

    I personally just find the lack of emotion he stirs in people when he is one of the biggest reasons we almost got relegated to be a little odd, that’s all. ‘He very nearly caused the biggest sporting embarrassment in history. It didn’t work. We move on’. Just doesn’t feel like the right...
  16. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

    Honestly I don’t want him to be hated, but I do just find it odd how, compared to a heck of a lot of other managers who have not performed anywhere near as badly, he gets off EXTREMELY lightly. And again, I don’t need fans to hate the guy personally, but I would like to see a more honest...
  17. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    ENIC

    I guess in Levy’s mind he will say - and may be right to say - that because the buck stops with him, he deserves the credit for getting us there. And that it will have proved that if only he keeps cycling through, he can find the right manager who can work under his constraints and achieve crazy...
  18. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    Vinai did a video talking about the 30 different candidates interviewed at pace with 10 key criteria. He then also says he didn’t sack Frank because of worries about the interim market, the fact that results would probably turn, that it might put off signings in January etc. Vinai has to...
  19. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    I can actually see Frank being more of a Levy hire, with Lange strongly advocating for it and Vinai not wanting to rock the boat too much in his first few months so going along with it. Last summer Levy would have seen Frank as well regarded and up and coming. And I think Levy’s understanding...
  20. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    Vinai Venkatesham - CEO

    Yeah I agree with this. I don’t think we can say Levy is more than 50% responsible for 17th, because he would have acted a lot sooner. I think the fact that we went through the transition itself is the reason. Because we make the bad hire and don’t then have the person around who would be...
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