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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    Moving vehicle is a threat to your safety. You don't know the intention can easily reverse rapidly over you having turned away. Person in charge of a vehicle thats refused to follow commands and is setting off is a significant threat. In confrontation between person on foot with a gun and...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    How doesn't it? Driving the vehicle following command from armed officer to get out = shot fired.
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    you are really struggling with sticking to the facts in this conversation. This is exactly what i said screenshotted from the post you can find yourself
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    Second bit is correct.
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    You said they were looking for Kaba and believed him to be armed. They weren't and they didn't. In terms of "ramming a police car" matter of interpretation - his car moved very slowly. The point was the moment he moves the vehicle following command to get out justified the shooting in the eyes...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    The point wasn't about the threshold for shooting something. The point was that these women weren't there peacefully minding their own business. They went there to confront and disrupt the agents and they were being aggressive and confrontational. The situation escalates from there rapidly.
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    From the BBC:
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    The officers were not looking for Kaba because he was believed to be carrying a gun. They didn't know Kaba was the driver nor did they know his background at the time. If you're going to comment on police tactical doctrine and situations can you at least get your facts straight. The ICE agent...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    Er no one is shot in the UK or other countries in the same situation? Absolute gonads. In fact, very similar incident occurred very recently in the UK. Armed police stopped a car driven by a man called Chris Kaba. He did not have a weapon on him, but he refused to get out the car and then...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    Hmmm, what have i said? Have i jumped to their defence? I said the law will need to examine whether their actions were proportionate. BUT, from experience i know the protocol in those situations and i can tell you that the person shot was in control of a vehicle. That the vehicle is capable...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    People are saying on this very forum "lock him up, its cold blooded murder" without awareness or assessment of the full facts. Trial by social media at its very finest
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    The law is the law, warts and all, its better than murder conviction by social media wouldn't you agree?
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    Ok, so if i told you that i've seen people charged and convicted of where hand has been on a door, for example in case of a custody battle where woman started opening door to get her kids out and man drove off leaving her with chronic wrist injury would you agree or disagree that this action...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    If it was a 5 year old girl that had put her hand on the door and started opening it when the driver decided to drive off what would be your opinion of the actions of the driver and risk/danger calculation then? "Well the 5 year old was never in any real danger"
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    This is like the Chris Kaba shooting in the UK. A vehicle is a weapon. A very powerful and lethal one. This is recognised in criminal and civil law. In personal injury cases involving vehicles colliding with pedestrians UK law recognises that the fault is always heavily weighted towards the...
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    Thomas Frank - Head Coach

    Spot on.
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    Thomas Frank - Head Coach

    International football is pretty different though. Romero only has to concentrate for limited periods and his questionable decision making and rashness isn't as exposed. Just for example. None of our defenders are "defenders" is my main problem. If you were asked to name our defenders...
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    Thomas Frank - Head Coach

    I think this is the think right. Its the green shoots. Ange didn't actually need time. He implemented his system effectively from day 1 and hit the PL like a train. The problem was that his methods eventually hit the squad like a train injury wise and he didn't have a plan B for when the PL...
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    Thomas Frank - Head Coach

    When an attack minded manager loses over 50% of their games because we are too open and a defensive manager loses over 50% of their games because we are not very good at shutting teams out, maybe, just maybe, for all the faults of both managers, there is a glaring answer here: that both...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

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