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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    You know, the fact is you consistently get emotive and personal on this. Which says to me your judgement is clouded and biased.
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    But it plays against the "cold blooded murder" .....fact they f*cked up and created a bad tactical situation doesn't detract from fact you have an arguable case to use force when you see a vehicle suddenly reverse then come towards you. Its like the Menezes case - fact the police f*cked up...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    He can't see where she's steeeing in a split second. Fact car ended up going right is irrelevant to his decision. He reaches for the gun before the car turns.
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    How do you know what tactically he should have done. Initially there is no obvious need to be tactical. I agree with the comment about uncoordinated - colleague going for door when his guy is stood in front of car was stupid move. But once car is coming towards him as i said split second...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    He didn't amble in front of the car after his colleague moved to the paasenger door, he was already stood in front of the car pointing his phone at the driver when that happened. He probably wasn't even aware of his colleagues actions as he was looking at his phone obtaining the footage. You're...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    its not wrong, its exactly what happened. Yes he had already obtained a lot of footage walking around the car, but he went to the front and was holding his phone up at the windshield when one of his colleagues went to open the driver's door, at that point the vehicle reverses back and then...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    The other comments as well "why did he stand in front of a car?" It is obvious from tje footage what he was doing, he went to the front of the car to obtain footage/photo from his phone of the driver. At the time he went to do that the vehicle was stationery, the vehicle reversed when the...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    hang on though, that "favourite one" isn't grounded in accuracy, the officer that jumped on the door was not the shooter. The officer that was the shooter walked in front of the vehicle to take a photo/video of the driver via the windscreen and he was holding his phone up as the vehicle changed...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    As per my posts, you're told by an armed law enforcement officer to get out your vehicle. Just do it or accept the darwin award.
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    Of course i would.
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    Lets talk about training, tactical situational awareness. Its like all the criticisms of those officers in the airport that got into a fight, you could criticise a lot of their tactical situational awareness based on classroom, open hands training etc, believe lead officer went to put hands on...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    You're attacked all time on job. Its the nature of it. If you took every officer off the job that had been attacked, hit/dragged by a car, had knife pulled on them, seen someones insides all over a road, etc etc you'd end up with nobody on duty within a few weeks. Met up with an old mate of...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    There is not much i would argue with there either, but the key things i would highlight is that actually it boils down to individual decisions and rationale in the context of the situation. Key bits to highlight from what they have said: - "been a hot subject for days" i.e. there is a debate...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    The woman 100% posed a threat. She is behind the wheel of a vehicle capable of killing someone easily and inflicting life changing injuries even at slow speeds. She is refusing to obey commands and has started driving off. You don't know what her intentions are or what her temperament is. As...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    As i said here is what i said in my original post. At no point was i referring to words the driver said.
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    "He managed to get out of the way he wasn't in any danger" "He ducked the baseball bat swing and the person swinging for him started backing away he wasn't in any real danger" "He missed with the shot and pointed the gun in a different direction he wasn't in any real danger"
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    I don't think i am wrong to compare the two, but this forum is about sometimes subjective opinions. I brought the incident up as its a recent incident in this country that sparked protests, a call for the officer to be charged with murder a public outcry that was heeded by the IOPC, which in...
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    I know police protocols, yes.
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    My response was a screen shot from the BBC with the exact words for clarity. I never attributed them to the driver.
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    Sick sick world what is wrong with people

    I am not a police officer, lets make that clear. I work for a bank.
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