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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    I didn't say she was charged with inciting violence. Where's the race angle in the tweet? Are illegal immigrants a race?
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    I don't see it. "Do it if I care" is not incitement in my book. Where's the racial hatred angle also. No race mentioned anywhere. She shouldn't have pled guilty in my view. Probably duff legal advice.
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Hundreds of people could have died of a tweet? :tearsofjoy:
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Set fire to the hotels for all I care isn't inciting violence in my interpretation. Not beyond reasonable doubt in terms of the men's rea of the offence (which is the intent behind the actus reas - the action which is necessary to establish a crime)
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Where is the incitement to violence in that tweet? I thought she had incited violence as that is what I read in the press. I'd never actually seen the tweet until you posted it. It has really changed my mind on it. Spending time in prison for that? Wow. I have posted on here that Starmer's...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    No she didn't. FYI, it is against the law to show support for a proscribed terrorist organisation. But you've just posted saying it was a disgrace that people were arrested for showing support for a proscribed terrorist organisation. So which is it? You either obey the law or you don't. What...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Splitting hairs? Its locking someone up. "Effectively endorsing?" It isn't the same thing at all. It is an irrationsl emotional outburst. Not something to spend time in prison for whatsoever. On the other hand as I said around the same time Huw Edwards is convicted of trading the most extreme...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    I actually thought she had called for all the asylum hotels to be burnt down. She actually doesn't. She said she wouldn't care if they were burnt down, along with all of our politicians inside. Actually seeing the tweet i'm gobsmacked she got time for that. And i can see why many people are...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Agree with much of this. On house prices it goes back to supply and demand though. There is a "housing shortage". The housing shortage is because of a number of factors (theres a housing shortage thats never been worse but the number of empty homes has never been higher), but the biggest...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    A few groups that over stretched on mortgages? I.e. pretty much most people. Most people can't afford more than a 10-15% deposit and at a repayment term of over 20 years. So tonnes of people are sat there on over 80% LTV. The other thing that will happen though is if the banks know the...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Being f*cked is relative. Something sometimes politicians forget. Liz Truss didn't f*ck people in your sense, but lots of people felt absoluteky f*cked.
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    If the banks are f*cked - everyone is f*cked. And if there was a mass devaluing of property the banks would struggle even if people maintained the loan as banks would not be able to borrow against the value of their safest assets in order to meet liabilities. It would grind the entire economy...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    If my property devalued to that point i'd be f*cked.
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    But that would devalue everyone's property. And what would happen if the start of that was devalued rental properties is that people would just buy them off the landlords selling up to live in. And you'd just get a mass reduction in available rental properties.
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    The yanks need to be on board with that though
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    My guess is that Starmer has seen Rayner's balls up as an opportunity to get rid of the last of the "lefty" types and install more of his wet lettuce centrist types in a bid to prop up his own position in the party.
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Israel is difficult. There is an argument as I've said that Israel has had to live with aggression from Gaza for years, that rockets are constantly fired from Gaza at Israeli cities and they don't do much as Israel has constructed the most ridiculous air defence system in the world. All this...
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Ok but if you drive millions of unviable (I.e. loss making) rental properties into the public sector, who is going to pay for that?
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Yeah international relations and trade probably the only area where you could look and say the government are doing a competent and times impressive job! What message does that send?
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    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Rent isn't about the value of the property though as the value of the property is ultimately what people are willing to pay for it or how much a bank values it as security for a loan. Lots of rental properties are in areas that are less desirable and so values are depressed but the maintenance...
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