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  1. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    I would also say, that people take out the first 10 games. Like ‘take out the first 10 games and the trend was down!’ as if they don’t count. Like, he still won those 10 games. They count. And I think a run like that is also part of the Ange experience. Just like the downswings are. And I...
  2. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    I think this is the excuse they used to make the decision, but I don’t actually buy it. It’s just doesn’t make any sense. Why would the season before have any bearing on the season just gone? I think they just didn’t believe that Ange was right for the structure as much as Frank is. And part of...
  3. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    I just think that the ‘tactics not working in this league’ argument doesn’t make any sense. Under Ange, at various points, we won really important games home and away against big teams, and we lost games to inferior teams. If it was tactics, we’d routinely get punished by almost everyone. What...
  4. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    I’m sure he did divide people internally too. I think to believe in Ange is to have a certain type of faith. It’s why he signs things with ‘for a true believer’ and I love that. His career has been the art of doing things differently, being doubted, and then proving people wrong every time...
  5. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    I know you’re trying to be fair and balanced with your last line but I just find it so utterly patronising - not to me but to the man we’re discussing. This is the exact sort of thing he’s had to deal with his entire career, people doubting him. The man who got us 5th in his first season and...
  6. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    I’m not even arguing that getting Frank in isn’t the right thing to do for the club in the way they want to run things, but it doesn’t really alter the debate around Ange. If we want to argue that because ENIC has made a decision then it has to be infallibly correct, then we might as well shut...
  7. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    Sorry, who are you referring to? The Spurs board?
  8. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    We know it was an anomaly because Ange finished 5th with us in his first season, and more often than not regardless of who the manager is we are in the top 6. We also dealt with a historically crazy and anomalous injury crisis. If you’re saying that despite all of that, Ange is potentially still...
  9. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    Come on mate, that first paragraph is absolutely ridiculous. 😂😂 ‘if they beat us, it’s because they’re loads better. If we beat them, they can’t be any good.’
  10. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    You would genuinely contend that Frankfurt are not a good team? Seemingly *because* we beat them? That’s some impressive ability to take away the achievement. And Galatassaray are the only good team, again seemingly because they beat us? Forster in goal, Gray at left back, Davies and Dragusin...
  11. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    You’re asking for context and I might gently say there was context behind us being bad in the league, and also United clearly prioritising Europa too. But anyway, the point wasn’t that. It was that there are good teams in the Europa League, unarguably good teams.
  12. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    Genuinely, why does this matter? This is something all managers will do. I also think he was a master of using the press conferences to maintain his aura with the players and the belief that they were going to be winners. And he was dealing with frankly a lot of disrespect from interviewers.
  13. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    ‘Sussed out’ is such a children’s concept of debating football, I’m sorry. It’s completely illogical nonsense. If he was ‘sussed out’, why did we go to Villa towards the end of his first season and smash them?
  14. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    If you genuinely think that, there’s literally nothing anyone can say to debate with you. You’re so far on one side of the argument that it’s pointless. Palace beat Stockport, Doncaster, Millwall at home, Fulham and Villa. Beating City was huge, and I’d never take the achievement away from...
  15. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    Totally agreed.
  16. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    We hadn’t won a European trophy for 41 years, and haven’t been able to sniff anything else other than a League Cup for most of that time, and all of a sudden we’re winning trophies despite the manager who has actually done it everywhere he’s been? This is just insane to me. Why would you be so...
  17. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    Genuinely I just feel that we would have been back in the top 6. We got 5th in his first season. People say no Europe to contend with and that’s fair, but it was also a squad that had just lost Kane, and also wasn’t totally suited to playing his system. We had Deki on the right that season - not...
  18. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    I think he almost certainly could have played in a completely different way to earn more points in the league. But I believe that he wanted to maintain enough of the principles of play so that we still had an identity that the players were bought into and comfortable with, so that in the third...
  19. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    Arrggggghhh dammit you’ve pulled me back in to discussing this. Which players though? The Ben Davies / Archie Gray centre back run? Or just the patched up 11 that was basically playing every 3 days for 3 months straight? I would argue that the fact that they came through that period and...
  20. SissokoWasGood (BoL)

    The 'If You Still Need to Purge Yourself Of Ange' Thread

    Ange is a great communicator - and part of his genius was creating belief in the players through an extreme confidence in himself, which he reinforced throughout the season.
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