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Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

Sandman said:
I honestly thought he would work well at Spurs. he seemed to know his tactics very well. And I liked his honest demeanour. But he lost himself in our bad home form and then the injuries took their toll. he needed to be fired in Decemeber.

What I still cant fathom is why we hired Tudor. That was an utter shambles.
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Simple answer...cheap, cheap, cheap.
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
The reason he made no impression was all down to personality. The players had just come off a highly charismatic and inspirational coach in Ange. Frank was a personality free zone! Has there ever been a blander personality in football, I think not? This was always my biggest criticism of him; he just never had it in him to get our players going.
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It was more down to his negative football rather than anything to do with his personality
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
The reason he made no impression was all down to personality. The players had just come off a highly charismatic and inspirational coach in Ange. Frank was a personality free zone! Has there ever been a blander personality in football, I think not? This was always my biggest criticism of him; he just never had it in him to get our players going.
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As a new leader in any field, you have two options, get the current employees to buy into your vision or fire them all and replace.

In a football club, you won't really get the second option, Frank failed because he didn't get buy in (and his tactics were brick), his time at Spurs paints him as a very poor manager, regardless of his history, it will be interesting to see if he ever is able to do something at even lower PL level again.
 
Raziel said:
As a new leader in any field, you have two options, get the current employees to buy into your vision or fire them all and replace.

In a football club, you won't really get the second option, Frank failed because he didn't get buy in (and his tactics were brick), his time at Spurs paints him as a very poor manager, regardless of his history, it will be interesting to see if he ever is able to do something at even lower PL level again.
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And the improved success of his former employer shows that maybe… maybe… it wasn’t him but the club structure that worked
 
His failure goes to show that personality and man-management are just as important, if not more since the coaching staff can help out, than just being tactically astute.

The players’ personalities (egos) at a top club are different from those at lower size clubs, and the Coach/Manager has to be able to handle them.

Look at Alonso at RM for example.
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
The reason he made no impression was all down to personality. The players had just come off a highly charismatic and inspirational coach in Ange. Frank was a personality free zone! Has there ever been a blander personality in football, I think not? This was always my biggest criticism of him; he just never had it in him to get our players going.
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DubSpur said:
It was more down to his negative football rather than anything to do with his personality
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A manager can get away with boring football if they have the charisma to charm chairmen and journalists plus an aura to persuade squads to buy into their philosophy, hence why Mourinho still gets to manage elite clubs like Real Madrid whilst Frank will never get a bigger job than Brentford again.
 
SteveAWOL said:
A manager can get away with boring football if they have the charisma to charm chairmen and journalists plus an aura to persuade squads to buy into their philosophy, hence why Mourinho still gets to manage elite clubs like Real Madrid whilst Frank will never get a bigger job than Brentford again.
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Fair point, but the flip side of that, if the football is exciting and the players enjoy playing a more boring manager can get away with it.
 
It’s quite funny the difference between this and the Ange threads. Ange made people feel something, whether they remember the joy he brought or still refer to him as a ‘fat clam’

Thomas Frank is just…that unfortunate blip. No worse than that. Unfortunate with injuries where Ange caused them. Still a good coach where Ange is a clueless idiot from a footballing backwater.

Being incredibly bland has its benefits I guess.
 
tommysvr said:
It’s quite funny the difference between this and the Ange threads. Ange made people feel something, whether they remember the joy he brought or still refer to him as a ‘fat clam’

Thomas Frank is just…that unfortunate blip. No worse than that. Unfortunate with injuries where Ange caused them. Still a good coach where Ange is a clueless idiot from a footballing backwater.

Being incredibly bland has its benefits I guess.
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Oh don't worry, he made me feel plenty of things too!!! Albeit I know what you mean. What makes me laugh are the people who still try and defend him.
 
I like Frank, I like the way he puts a team together, that’s how I’d approach the PL too, there is vindication in that style as Arsenal have just proved.

We’ll see how he does in his next job, I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t do well.
 
Wrong fit, and if he is interviewed in years to come, he took the wrong approach from day one and didn't improve. His pragmatism for which he was famed, his ability to set a team up to beat whoever the opposition are, was found to be desperately short of imagination, especially when shorn of what little creativity he actually had at his disposal. Any manager would have a hard time without Madders, Kulu, Kudus, Solanke etc but De Zerbi has shown what you can do if you have players who give you work rate over technical prowess. Frank was literally just happy to grind a point per game for the rest of the season and stay up on 40 odd.

For all the faux pas moments, gooner cups etc, his biggest misstep was actually not connecting with the fans and what they were asking of his team.
 
He just wasn’t ready to play to the strengths of the team and rise to the occasion to change … instead he brought Brentford tactics that served him well to players that didn’t sign up for that.
 
I will die on the hill of him being a decent coach. Nothing earth shattering, but a decent coach and (by most accounts) a good man who tried to get to know the staff and get the players to also get to know them.

But those types just don't work at Spurs. Never have, never will. You need to be a nutcase messiah. You need to believe, make everyone believe. And you need to have political acumen - at least, to the extent of navigating the backroom battles, keeping the fans onside, and keeping the players happy.

All those soft skills are where failed. He'll do well at a smaller club where things are set up like they were at Brentford - where the coach is just a cog, and not an important one.
 
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