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The "If we go down" thread

Gutter Boy said:
The club/players. But I actually think the fans making a noise about it could make it usefully more urgent.

We know the owners are now checked out and distant, and Vinai and Lange are just passive yes men, so you've got to hope there's someone around someone who notices and cares
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We need a loud seige mentality.
 
braineclipse said:
There will be suitors for most of our best players, second best players and our most highly rated younger players.

Even outside the best you mentioned, would players like Solanke, Udogie, Danso, Porro, Spence, Gallagher, Sarr, Gray, Vuskovic etc be up for a year in the Championship? Would they prefer that over an interested club in the PL or on the continent? I'm sure there would be clubs interested in them (and others). Maybe not the elite teams, but there will be a massive pressure from the media, agents and the players themselves. And other clubs will be salivating at the chance of a good deal for clearly good players.
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I think all those players you mention would stay at least a season. Some of them arent top quality, and players like Gallagher and Solanke would want to prove they are still good players . They wont have teams lining up to buy them on the form theyve shown for us thats for sure.
 
If Vuskovic leaves in the summer then I’ll be seriously tinkled off. Would raise the question why we let him go out on loan when he could have been useful for us, and the loan only works if he is to come back to be a permanent fixture in the team.
 
monkeybarry said:
Bizarrely, I think most of our players will be in demand - they are all good players; they are just a mess together.

Vic - back to Italy
Porro - Plenty of suitors
Danso - probably back to Germany
Romero - will be the first to demand to leave
VdV - will be so close behind Romero you won't see his shadow
Spence - a Villa Saudi Sportswashing Machine type
Bergvall - big rep
Udogie - back to Italy
Xavi & Tel - still have good reputations, sure someone in Germany or France will be stupid enough.
Vuscovic - I think he'll go in the summer no matter what.
Kulu - loads of suitors

Madders - will want to leave. Might have some lower PL suitors. Might not.

Sarr - might stay. Will have options. But I suspect he'd stay.
Solanke - I think he'd stay one year.
Richi - same as Solanke.
Gray - will have lots of options. I think he'd stay and focus on being a regular and developing. He seems to have his head screwed on.

So:
Kinsky
New RB
Dorrington Phillips Takai
Davies might get a new deal?
Souza

Gray
Sarr
Gallagher?

Moore
Yang
Donley (edit - apparently Oxford have an option to make permanent)
Williams Barnett

Gallagher - unknown.

Solanke
Richi?
Lankshear
Melia?

Just typing that - I want half of that top lot gone and the bottom lot given the space to step up; a few of them will.
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I predicted this lot a little while back (I boarded the "we're rather likely to get relegated" train early!)

Sales:
Vicario - £15m (Italian club)
Dragusin - £15m (Italian club)
Romero - £50m Spanish club
VDV - £55m (Liverpool)
Porro - £30m (top 6 PL club or Spanish club)
Udogie - £20m (Italian club)
Spence - £15m (PL club)
Bergval - £40m (Liverpool/Villa/Saudi Sportswashing Machine)
Bentancur - £15m (Italian club / midtable PL club)
Simmons - £40m (Brighton/Villa/West Ham/Dortmund)
Gallagher - £30m (Villa/West Ham/Brentford/Saudi Sportswashing Machine)
Solanke - £35m (Brighton/Villa/West Ham/Brentford)
Kudus - £30m (Brighton/Villa/Bournemouth/Fulham/Sunderland/Saudi Sportswashing Machine)
Kulusevski - £35m (Emirates Marketing Project/Man Utd/Villa/Saudi Sportswashing Machine/Spain/Italy/Germany)
Richarlison - £20m (Everton)

Leaving:

-------------------------Kinsky
?------------ Danso----------Vuskovic/Phillips--------Souza
--------------Gray-------------------Sarr
------------------------Maddison
Odobert/Moore-----Lankshear/Scarlett-------------------Tel

Selling all of the above and getting those player wages off the books would actually give us a bit of income to buy a few additional players to strengthen the team/squad to try to get us out of the Championship at the first attempt (we'd definitely need better at centre forward). Though I think we'd then need to spend a lot of money if we went up in order to try to stay in the PL though.

Something we could look to do is loan out some of the younger players to the teams just promoted or towards the bottom of the PL - the likes of Bergval and Spence maybe? That would then be two fewer players we'd have to find if we did go back up at the first attempt.
 
El Dante said:
Surely we wouldn’t be that desperate to fire sale 90% of our first team?
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Perhaps not forced to from a pure financial perspective (though we would need to make some extremely serious cuts). However, in the event of relegation I think most of our players would want out. These days it is difficult keeping players who don't want to remain at a football club. Remember also that it is hard enough getting out of the Championship when all pulling together, let alone trying to do so with players who have downed tools.
 
Finney Is Back said:
Perhaps not forced to from a pure financial perspective (though we would need to make some extremely serious cuts). However, in the event of relegation I think most of our players would want out. These days it is difficult keeping players who don't want to remain at a football club. Remember also that it is hard enough getting out of the Championship when all pulling together, let alone trying to do so with players who have downed tools.
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But many of the valuations seem to be fire sale prices rather than what we would likely get for them?
 
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