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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Grays_1890 said:
Exactly this, just seems an excuse to finger point at people

A for what point do you plan for and balance life? Plan for every potential situation in life and love scared and frugally because you are scared of a a government decision that might triple your mortgage (ala Truss in a mates case).

I worked fcuking hard for the first 15 years of my career in an industry which notoriously pays little and lived salary to salary to get where I am today and be slightly more comfortable. If I lost my job In that time or had a major set back I would have been fcuked......nice to know some would have been a cnut about the circumstances if I claimed off the Rock n Roll
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How many kids do you have?
 
Grays_1890 said:
And who would you trust to implement and enforce it? Our political system....

It’s also frankly ridiculous that a set of protections for peoples human rights are seen as the bad guys in the room.
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Hopefully people won’t fall for the old ‘Brexit’ trick. I’m sure we have an oven ready deal there to replace ECHR - yeah right!

IMO the only way anyone should ever vote (if it went to a vote) to leave the ECHR would be if a replacement was actually already agreed and the exact terms and conditions known.

Personally I think rhe ECHR will instead be changed from within.
 
scaramanga said:
I said nothing about their status, only their method of arrival. Anyone who has arrived via an illegal route deserves nothing from the state.
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We do not provide any legal route to the people who are coming illegally. But once they claim asylum they are not illegal anymore. That's the key point here.
 
scaramanga said:
There was a very workable solution for them to apply in Calais. The French scuppered it.
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So in the '1 in 1 out ' deal....we process and ascertain an asylum seeker as 'unsuccessful' and send them back in return for an asylum seeker that will be successful in their application? So have the French processed the asylum seeker as 'successful' before they send them?
 
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