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Gutter Boy said:
All their social media is a pile on and mockery of our Korean fans. Its pretty much replacement theory levels
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All….
It’s not
Some can be
But that’s not under the change banner
I’m not trying to defend these guys bug your accusations are, imo, big ones with minimal evidence
We have an issue with macarons calling out and abusing Korean fans. If odd and clearly wrong
I have seen some of the change crew make comments about football tourists, and IMO it’s an issue. But the issue starts with ST holder selling their ticket.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
All….
It’s not
Some can be
But that’s not under the change banner
I’m not trying to defend these guys bug your accusations are, imo, big ones with minimal evidence
We have an issue with macarons calling out and abusing Korean fans. If odd and clearly wrong
I have seen some of the change crew make comments about football tourists, and IMO it’s an issue. But the issue starts with ST holder selling their ticket.
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CFT have put out a survey about the atmosphere in the ground. Once of the questions was along the lines of "Why do you think there is not a good atmosphere", or wtte, with a number of options, one of which is "The wrong type of supporter". Now that could mean different things to different people (there's no option to explain what is meant by that), but it felt a bit 'leading' to me and I closed down the survey. I might go back and take another look.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
CFT have put out a survey about the atmosphere in the ground. Once of the questions was along the lines of "Why do you think there is not a good atmosphere", or wtte, with a number of options, one of which is "The wrong type of supporter". Now that could mean different things to different people (there's no option to explain what is meant by that), but it felt a bit 'leading' to me and I closed down the survey. I might go back and take another look.
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The irony of "The wrong type of supporter".
 
Glenda's Legs said:
CFT have put out a survey about the atmosphere in the ground. Once of the questions was along the lines of "Why do you think there is not a good atmosphere", or wtte, with a number of options, one of which is "The wrong type of supporter". Now that could mean different things to different people (there's no option to explain what is meant by that), but it felt a bit 'leading' to me and I closed down the survey. I might go back and take another look.
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We have a guy on here who thinks it’s women and children
The simple answer is the game is less tribal, more structured and fudging boring
I actually think the atmosphere has got worse and worse as the game has got more televised. Not sure what the correlation is but that’s how I’ve seen it
Other key at spurs is older fans generally… sing less because they are more “aware” of how things pan out. Younger fans who are, from my experience more vociferous but achy afford tickets
I bumped into a group of 19 year olds at AZ and they were smashing. Signing and chanting. Asked them where they sit normally and the answer was … they can’t afford tickets so it’s just cup games and the odd league game
When I’ve seen Korean fans they don’t generally sing the songs much. I mean English is at best a second language for them. But the issue is much wider than “tourists” and it’s definitely not women and children
 
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Bedfordspurs said:
All….
It’s not
Some can be
But that’s not under the change banner
I’m not trying to defend these guys bug your accusations are, imo, big ones with minimal evidence
We have an issue with macarons calling out and abusing Korean fans. If odd and clearly wrong
I have seen some of the change crew make comments about football tourists, and IMO it’s an issue. But the issue starts with ST holder selling their ticket.
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It's quite endemic in their supporters. Lots of 'we want our Tottenham back' posts feature cheery Korean fans draped in merchandise. It's pretty standard right wing dog whistling tactics. Just do things like that, rather than say explicitly what they mean. The skinheads in their posters is the same. It's a base reactionary response by some that way inclined to the increasing diversification of our crowd.
 
Gutter Boy said:
It's quite endemic in their supporters. Lots of 'we want our Tottenham back' posts feature cheery Korean fans draped in merchandise. It's pretty standard right wing dog whistling tactics. Just do things like that, rather than say explicitly what they mean. The skinheads in their posters is the same. It's a base reactionary response by some that way inclined to the increasing diversification of our crowd.
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I think some of it is
I don’t think a lot of it is
 
markysimmo said:
I don't think we can ever accuse Levy of not spending money
It's how we've spent it, or in Poch's case we didn't spend any for 2 years when we was almost top of the tree

Sliding doors moment, I wonder where we would be now if Levy had backed Poch with 2/3 worldies to go into the amazing squad we had
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The better question to ask is where we would be now if we hadn't completely neglected the whole recruitment structure for years. We cut this down to the bone and then reaped what we sowed. It was gross negligence that we've still not fully recovered from.
 
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Lilbaz said:
Not saying we'd get more loans or anything. But isn't some of our debt liabilities? Such as season tickets sold, but we haven't yet played the games. So is considered debt? It's not actually money we have to pay out just obligations we have to fulfill.
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The current £50m net interest costs are even more worrying in that case!
 
Grays_1890 said:
Well I would like to think before anyone was sold we would have a flat 100m in the market, given previous seasons, maybe slightly more. If we trimmed the fat I think we could do useful work in the market. I love Romero but given I also don't think anyone can defend in the game anymore I would be ok with a reshuffle if needed. I actually also really rate what I have seen from Danso.
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I think Levy's statement that came out with the financial results is preparing us for the fact that we won't.
 
Lemonade Money said:
Firstly, how on earth do you know what Munn has done, it's possible when the board sat down to pick the new manager, everyone was 100% for Ange, apart from him, but he went with the majority.

Two, we are looking for an attacking manager with a potential to win the league. We need to take a risk to get there (see Ange). This one may not have worked but hopefully the next one, or the one after will.

All the names being banded about at the moment could get us top four/six, and then how long until the same experts are telling us, he's taken us as far as he can? Does Munn get sacked for that too?
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It's not necessarily Munn picking Ange that worries me (I suspect we had several names in the frame before we settled for Ange).

It is the fact that he hasn't proven himself at the top level. We should be taking somebody great from a big club with a history of doing very good things.
 
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