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Financial Results

Muttley said:
I was trying to figure out whether he's preparing us for a lower net spending this summer in his chosen words.

Apparently, each place in the PL is worth £2.8m nowadays. When you think about it, that's £25-30m of money we won't have on top of the additional games next season if we don't win the EL. Add to that the cost of replacing managers and we could be upwards of £50m lower in net spend than some fans would like.
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I think I wrote in another thread about the difference in prize money between 8th and 14th and iirc it's something close to what you quoted
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Worrying numbers unless we sell a few
Which we will
That’s always been our Achilles heel
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When we played Fulham I think we had 4 or 5 out that would want to be on the bench at minimum.....and on the bench there was only Scarlett who you'd call a non first team player...so if everyone was fit 3 or 4 wouldn't even get a bench spot.

Now role that scenario into next season with no European football and there will be a few twiddling to their thumbs.
So, yes, a few will go.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
When we played Fulham I think we had 4 or 5 out that would want to be on the bench at minimum.....and on the bench there was only Scarlett who you'd call a non first team player...so if everyone was fit 3 or 4 wouldn't even get a bench spot.

Now role that scenario into next season with no European football and there will be a few twiddling to their thumbs.
So, yes, a few will go.
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Gil
Veliz
Hojberg
Bissouma
That’s before we even start selling
 
A few takes aways: our match receipts must only be circa 1.3m a game. It seems low. Maybe doesn't account for the type of game. It doesn't include food and drinks which must be sizable.

Commercial revenue is up. We've long been trying to boost our sponsorships. We need to start winning cups to really accelerate this however.

The biggest issue the club has are fans not giving managers time, and Levy being influenced by fans. Sacking Conte and sacking Nuno because of fan pressure probably cost us 50m a year in lost European revenue.

The transfer strategy is questionable. It is logical, but risky. We've invested in youth, and some of the signings won't come good. Hoping for another Bale or top top player we couldn't attract but can develop, is why we're going down this route. And it makes sense. But it does need to be balanced with senior signings too. The youth signings should stand us in good stead longer term, but we need to be in Europe, so need a bit more experience in the squad. We have a lack of leaders amongst the older players. And the younger players (who actually have a bit more natural leadership potential) are not fully polished yet. Great as squad players, but fans have to be patient and accept some lost points when playing so many younger players.
 
Raziel said:
I'm not either, this isn't a bottom half of the table squad

The question is, what do we re-baseline to? is this a top 6 squad or is it actually challenging for top 4? (and this is more about consistent, year over year, Forest has shown a far weaker squad can make a top 4 run on any given year). And post baseline, how many players, what investment is needed, is it 1 or 2 players or more?
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5th-8th I’d say.
 
I do agree that the transfer strategy has to be spot on based on the current financial situation.

If you look at the first team squad on the official website, the following need to go:
Ange's squad - Whiteman, Forster, Davies, Reggie, Biss, Werner, Richi.
Loanees - Hojbjerg, Gil, Solomon, Veliz,

Obviously some will walk at the end of contract but some will dictate a decent fee. Perhaps we could scrape to £50m or so on player sales. That will cover Tel, and then we need to pay for Cardoso. I wouldn't be surprised if we top up with some young player sales like Keeley and Phillips. We should expect the wages to go down even further.

I genuinely don't know how we will afford a major signing like Dibling even though he's what is needed.
 
Muttley said:
I do agree that the transfer strategy has to be spot on based on the current financial situation.

If you look at the first team squad on the official website, the following need to go:
Ange's squad - Whiteman, Forster, Davies, Reggie, Biss, Werner, Richi.
Loanees - Hojbjerg, Gil, Solomon, Veliz,

Obviously some will walk at the end of contract but some will dictate a decent fee. Perhaps we could scrape to £50m or so on player sales. That will cover Tel, and then we need to pay for Cardoso. I wouldn't be surprised if we top up with some young player sales like Keeley and Phillips. We should expect the wages to go down even further.

I genuinely don't know how we will afford a major signing like Dibling even though he's what is needed.
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We can be even smarter and get in Jonathan David on a free (fees will be £15m but that will be covered if we sell him)
Cardoso has an agreed fee
If we want tel we should negotiate a longer loan with a decision at the end
We won’t sell any of the kids imo because they haven’t grown in value
Could see us trying to sell Dragusin in the January window of he is usurped by our Croatian sensation
Agree with the rest if the outs
None would really make a dent to the depth other than Bissouma as the one who actually plays
 
Bedfordspurs said:
We can be even smarter and get in Jonathan David on a free (fees will be £15m but that will be covered if we sell him)
Cardoso has an agreed fee
If we want tel we should negotiate a longer loan with a decision at the end
We won’t sell any of the kids imo because they haven’t grown in value
Could see us trying to sell Dragusin in the January window of he is usurped by our Croatian sensation
Agree with the rest if the outs
None would really make a dent to the depth other than Bissouma as the one who actually plays
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Until Jonathon David and Angel Gomes join another club, I'm thinking they'll always be linked with us. I don't know enough about them to be fair. Would we have David and Tel in the same squad?

The Gomes I do like is Joao. He'd fit our club perfectly and, being 24, is much further along in his maturity than some of ours.

Agree on Dragu, and others have said Phillips is too much like him. I would think Phillips and Keeley have had some decent exposure this year and their stock is as high as it can probably go. Both generate 2025 profit which is important in the equation. Also, Keeley was bought too late to be homegrown / club trained from what I know. Interestingly, I didn't feel Phillips was like Dragu at all when I saw him. I thought he had way more ball skills.

Biss for Cardoso keep the depth where it is.
 
Muttley said:
I genuinely don't know how we will afford a major signing like Dibling even though he's what is needed.
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We'll have to cut the size of the squad significantly to adjust to no midweek football. So we could end up something like 12 players out, with 3 in (including hopefully Dibling). I think that's how we'll try and balance the books
 
Gutter Boy said:
We'll have to cut the size of the squad significantly to adjust to no midweek football. So we could end up something like 12 players out, with 3 in (including hopefully Dibling). I think that's how we'll try and balance the books
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Southampton want £100m for him, never going to happen.
 
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