Gazza
Chris Perry
I doubt it after reading the chairman’s message. Building around the current set up.
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Lange seemed to be absent from any name-checking in that statement - though I only skim read
Gazza
Chris Perry
I agree with most of that, and despite his mediocre start Gallagher performed when needed under RDZ
Gazza
Chris Perry
Let’s see what of it. But I respect Langes ability to find some real good prospects but don’t trust him enough to spearhead our recruitment
MartyFunkhouser
Garth Crooks
I reckon he is cooked, will be the one that gets hung out for the CFT phalanx....mercy killing.
Gazza
Chris Perry
Could be the move look at Villas trajectory after he left. But like I say I think his recruitment for young players for the most part has been pretty spot on.
Yeah I mean my only issue with Lange is that he's in a position above his station - that's not his fault
MartyFunkhouser
Garth Crooks
In fairness a bunch of those that kicked on he got in ...I think
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
fudge me. That's like Putin's annual statement where he talks about a big reset, a rich civil society, freedom of the press, and respectful relations with their neighbours
Gazza
Chris Perry
2024 winter window
Radu Drăgușin (Meh)
2024 summer window
Archie Gray (Well done)
Dominic Solanke (Shocker)
Wilson Odobert (Let’s see)
Lucas Bergvall (Well done)
Yang Min-hyeok (Unknown)
2025 winter window
Antonín Kinský (Well done)
Mathys Tel (No comment to avoid getting lynched)
Kevin Danso (Well done)
And to be balanced, Dragusin was being chased by many across Europe, just not worked out.
Any one could see Solanke was overpriced after one season.
MartyFunkhouser
Garth Crooks
I meant Villa
Aston Villa: £70m star Lange's greatest ever signing at Villa Park
Ranking the top seven signings made by Johan Lange during his time with Aston Villa.
www.givemesport.com
SteveAWOL
Steve Sedgley
SirPercyHotspur
Luke Young
Charrington statement that club not for sale and ENIC going nowhere causing mayhem on some forums. Will have to see what the summer window brings and to see who De Zerbi wants to bring in , may not have the massive £££££££ that everyone thinks will solve everything.
Bullet
Jimmy Cantrell
Well at least we didn't lose a further £250m yesterday! We should be feeling pretty flush after that.
We have a huge turnover and should be able to spend a lot more than most clubs.
Plus we have a lot of average players we can sell.
BrentwoodSpur
Milija Aleksic
We got £128m for that finish
But why? What fans want to happen v what is likely to happen are miles apart
clownfoot
Jose Dominguez
I agree - the wording of statements such as these never give clear aims that you can assess or quantify against.
“We will build a squad, led by Roberto as Head Coach, with the right blend of experience, youth and leadership to compete at the highest levels of Premier League and European football.”
Robertson can be classed as a signing of experience and leadership. Will he get in our starting 11?
“We will invest across multiple transfer windows to rebuild, balance and strengthen, with this summer representing an important first step in that work.”
This for me shows if we don’t strengthen as well this summer as we’d all hope, then they can say it’s a long term process
I’m sceptical because of what has come before. Levy may not be at the helm any more but it’s still ENIC who are in charge
DubaiSpur
Jack Jull
The Times article by Tom Allnutt really paints a picture of total chaos behind the scenes.
Some of it is absolutely insane stuff - like Dier, now of AS Monaco, taking it upon himself to lecture Spence on timeliness and attitude, only for Lange to wander past and, self-satisfied, remark 'at last! If only we had more of that!'. Like it wasn't *his job* to bring in players to do that.
There's also a lot of anonymous bitching and briefing by ENIC against Levy, and Levy loyalists against ENIC. It's all darkly hilarious.
But hidden in there are two paragraphs that sum up why we are, where we are.
"Levy and the Lewis family had overseen a period of drift beyond league positions too. The hierarchy prioritised pop concerts, Amazon documentaries, go-karting tracks and lucrative pre-season tours, which put football “further and further from the centre of things”, one present official said, and irritated the players, like Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg, who was fined two weeks’ wages for refusing to play in a post-season friendly in Melbourne in 2024. Morale among staff was low, with many fed up with the top-down way of working."
"Football departments cut during the pandemic were also never fully restored. Scouting was trimmed back, nominally in favour of a more centralised, data-led approach overseen by Lange and the brief chief football officer Scott Munn, but which resulted in fewer eyes on fewer players. The academy, which has yielded only 26 Premier League minutes this season, was neglected, “one of the lights turned off during Covid that never got turned back on”.
Apparently COVID resulted in a scythe being taken to backroom operations, which explains so much of why things have started breaking. Even in the marketing team, where...
"Even in non-football areas like marketing, staff describe the club as completely ignorant about the Tottenham fan base, in a way that would be deemed unthinkable in other industries."
Remember those cheery 'It's CLASSIC Tottenham!' billboards flogging sweatshirts, flashing across the stadium as we conceded yet another stupid goal?
Yeah, this tracks 100%.
Some of it is absolutely insane stuff - like Dier, now of AS Monaco, taking it upon himself to lecture Spence on timeliness and attitude, only for Lange to wander past and, self-satisfied, remark 'at last! If only we had more of that!'. Like it wasn't *his job* to bring in players to do that.
There's also a lot of anonymous bitching and briefing by ENIC against Levy, and Levy loyalists against ENIC. It's all darkly hilarious.
But hidden in there are two paragraphs that sum up why we are, where we are.
"Levy and the Lewis family had overseen a period of drift beyond league positions too. The hierarchy prioritised pop concerts, Amazon documentaries, go-karting tracks and lucrative pre-season tours, which put football “further and further from the centre of things”, one present official said, and irritated the players, like Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg, who was fined two weeks’ wages for refusing to play in a post-season friendly in Melbourne in 2024. Morale among staff was low, with many fed up with the top-down way of working."
"Football departments cut during the pandemic were also never fully restored. Scouting was trimmed back, nominally in favour of a more centralised, data-led approach overseen by Lange and the brief chief football officer Scott Munn, but which resulted in fewer eyes on fewer players. The academy, which has yielded only 26 Premier League minutes this season, was neglected, “one of the lights turned off during Covid that never got turned back on”.
Apparently COVID resulted in a scythe being taken to backroom operations, which explains so much of why things have started breaking. Even in the marketing team, where...
"Even in non-football areas like marketing, staff describe the club as completely ignorant about the Tottenham fan base, in a way that would be deemed unthinkable in other industries."
Remember those cheery 'It's CLASSIC Tottenham!' billboards flogging sweatshirts, flashing across the stadium as we conceded yet another stupid goal?
Yeah, this tracks 100%.
DubaiSpur
Jack Jull
And this paragraph sums it all up - it really is an excellent read.
"Tottenham’s collapse has been a tale of the players who left and were never replaced and of the directors too complacent to notice. They are an example of how corrosive a culture of apathy can be and how far it can spread, from the executive suites at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium to the training pitches at Hotspur Way. In a game so weighted towards the elite, they are a warning of how fast one of the wealthiest clubs in the world can unravel when it believes expertise is expendable and status locked in."
"Tottenham’s collapse has been a tale of the players who left and were never replaced and of the directors too complacent to notice. They are an example of how corrosive a culture of apathy can be and how far it can spread, from the executive suites at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium to the training pitches at Hotspur Way. In a game so weighted towards the elite, they are a warning of how fast one of the wealthiest clubs in the world can unravel when it believes expertise is expendable and status locked in."
MartyFunkhouser
Garth Crooks
The bit that doesnt track for me is the priority on off the field, yes we put lots of emphasis on it, IMO wisely as its a commercial game now and I am a firm believer that stadiums can be more than just a white elephant and empty the other 345 days a year. BUT the two run separately, having concerts at the stadium has zero impact on the playing side negatively, its run by people who would be operational on match days, the promoter and is negotiated by the commercial team, if they didnt happen its not like personnel and focus is diverted. In fact the spend increase into the team proves the opposite.
What I would say is how that money has been spent is the crime, not how its been made.