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Victimpool FC - Klopp leaving, grown men crying

There's a bit of a generational thing here I think. People who remember Dalglish as a player are probably slower to slaughter the guy than are those who don't.

He was awful last season for sure, but he should never, ever have been given the job in the first place after so many years out of the game. Indeed, the main reason he lost control of the Suarez situation was precisely because he was so rusty and had developed such a tin ear for the vocabulary of modern football. He appeared doddery at times. A wee bit senile. Which of course he isn't - it's just that in football terms he'd become a dinosaur in every sense.

Considering some of the awful people involved in football, Dalglish would come a long way down in any list of rogues and scoundrels.
 
There's a bit of a generational thing here I think. People who remember Dalglish as a player are probably slower to slaughter the guy than are those who don't.

He was awful last season for sure, but he should never, ever have been given the job in the first place after so many years out of the game. Indeed, the main reason he lost control of the Suarez situation was precisely because he was so rusty and had developed such a tin ear for the vocabulary of modern football. He appeared doddery at times. A wee bit senile. Which of course he isn't - it's just that in football terms he'd become a dinosaur in every sense.

Considering some of the awful people involved in football, Dalglish would come a long way down in any list of rogues and scoundrels.

Well said
 
There's a bit of a generational thing here I think. People who remember Dalglish as a player are probably slower to slaughter the guy than are those who don't.

He was awful last season for sure, but he should never, ever have been given the job in the first place after so many years out of the game. Indeed, the main reason he lost control of the Suarez situation was precisely because he was so rusty and had developed such a tin ear for the vocabulary of modern football. He appeared doddery at times. A wee bit senile. Which of course he isn't - it's just that in football terms he'd become a dinosaur in every sense.

Considering some of the awful people involved in football, Dalglish would come a long way down in any list of rogues and scoundrels.


This is true.

I think he either - asked for help and got bad advice or asked for help and was lost when it did not appear.


(Of course i believe the final say on signings was down to him, so he deserves most of the blame for those)
 
I think too many people are underestimating Saudi Sportswashing Machine, they may well finish above us. They are financially sound and have one of the best scouts in Europe, there is no need for them to sell.
 
I get that Kenny steadied the ship. His appointment was inspired in a way.

No manager was going to achieve what the fans thought was achievable. They still thought they were a top 4 team. With Kenny they had a manager who the fans would never turn on regardless of results. Sure they saw the writing on the wall, but in the end they reluctantly agreed that they had to move on from Kenny.

Imagine if Rodgers was appointed instead of Kenny. He may have achieved a better result footballing wise but never would have gotten close to where the pool fans thought they deserved to be.

Kenny was the disastrous manager they had to have for the fans to realise that all was not well on the park. He's now given the next manager breathing space and reduced expectations.
 
Supeted, that theory is fine if Kenny didn't tinkle away 100M+ on dross that Pool can't give away and fudged up the chances of the new manager getting the players/wages he needs for the unreasonable expectations that he will get.

Dogleash was a dinosaur, it was obvious from day one and his behaviour was disgraceful and undefendable.
 
True true. My theory though is that any manager would have been a failure, KKK was just an even bigger failure however he galvanized the fans which is the best they could hope for. If they brought in Rodgers or another boss who didn't have 10 Champs League titles to their name after Roy, he would have been hounded out at the first loss to a poor side and the fans would have been baying for blood.
 
From F365's Mediawatch:

Loanly
Brendan Rogers, 10 July, on Andy Carroll leaving on loan:

"It's something I would have to look at, I have to be honest. Sometimes a player going out on loan - in general, not just Andy - can benefit the club in the long term. I'm not going to sit here and say I will never let anyone go on loan, then come in here in two weeks and a player's gone, and you're saying 'you said you wouldn't let them go'."

Brendan Rogers, 18 July, on Andy Carroll leaving on loan:

"There has been a lot written and spoken over the last couple of weeks. For me, it's simple. If there was an offer to take him on a permanent deal, we'd have to look at it, but that's no different to any player. The thought of him going on loan for one year is ridiculous, really. It is that part of the year where there is a game going on with agents and other people."


He really has turned into a bit of a tit.
 
Agreed - I blame the endless media reacharound from a few decent passing Swansea performances which lead to very little and in turn landed him a massive job
 
Although Rodgers admitted his admiration for the Welsh international, he said there has been no formal contact between the two clubs over a proposed move for Allen.

'I have a great relationship with Swansea, but if there is a market for any of the players I would like to be in that market,' Rodgers said.

'He (Allen) is a very talented player, which everyone knows, but there is nothing more at the moment. When players come to a club such as Liverpool it is never straightforward.'
 
@frankieboyle
Joke Liverpool hated: "I'm proud that the archetypal Scouser is actually Glaswegian...Kenny Dalglish (applause)...He's even unemployed now"
 
The Suarez case was never about racism, it was about Manchester United, Evra, Ferguson, The FA and the British media stitching up Liverpool Football Club.

bored of the word racism. people just use it when its not even relevant anymore. calling someone racist seems to be in fashion now thanks to sky.

Could Luis take this to a real court of law now to clear his name if he wanted too like? Or would it be too late?

He is 100% right about ManchesterU ruling this whole league. But their days are over, the evil empire will fall, and I will enjoy every minute, every fudging minute..

And I was really impressed how he reacted on the pitch at OT. He showed them being not afraid of anything and no respect for those brickholes. As I said back than, a lot of players should notice and with Lucas back we finally got some balls back in our first eleven.

Still cant believe we basically decided to ignore this issue with the fa and the media just for a couple of extra mill in the clubs commercial income.

Modern day football fudging infuriates me, absolutely fudge all morals.

Evra was a c*nt before this started and is still a c*nt afterwards. The FA always was and always will be corrupt. The Mancs are still, and always were, a gang of tacos. The FA will still happily swallow Ginsoak's bell cheese for supper, just as they have done for the last 20 odd years. Nothing has changed, except an innocent man has been hounded almost out of our club, our season got fudged up completely with the whole episode a largely contributory factor, and The King is out of work, with his season going downhill from New Year onwards.
 
Agreed - I blame the endless media reacharound from a few decent passing Swansea performances which lead to very little and in turn landed him a massive job

I dont. I blame Liverpool. There is something about the mentality in that club that changes otherwise normal/nice people into tacos and tacos into c*nts.

Thats not to say Rodgers was all roses before hand, but since being there has shown a very different side to himself.

One that disappoints me, and being quite a fan leaves me feeling (at this point) glad we didnt get him.

Look at Liverpool, the wild sense of self importance, expectation, the victim culture, the ego - it spreads from the top of the club through to the fans...
 
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