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*** Tottenham Hotspur vs Liverpool OMT ***

Jordinho

Martin Peters
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Walker Dawson Vertonghen BAE
Parker Dembele
Lennon -- Bale -- Siggy
Defoe
 
we need to beat Liverscum.

I want us to beat those ****s moreso than any other team.

After we finish playing we should send over soem helicopters and drop concrete the soft stuff so it hardens over night.
 
AVB's Chelsea suit.



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77 - 0 Liverpool, followed by an attempted mass lynching of Sigurdsson, Dempsey, Levy and that bloke that runs RAWK_Meltdown.
 
A taste of what a bunch of bitter, deluded ****s they are. Get hating:

Can Inter tame The Chimp? That's the excruciating question.

I don't really mind him but I really wish he would stop fudging scoring. The media tossfest is just not going to stop. And if he carries on like this then he actually might win player of the year when Suarez deserves it so much more

He has got to stop scoring at some point very soon. I am reckoning Sunday myself.

What a brick goal to concede...and it made Bale look good, lol... this is laughable... and look how easy it was for Defoe to shoot that.

Please can we keep Bale out on sunday, I had enough of his lucky goals.

This game needs a opponent

Great, they're going to come to Anfield tacoting a side like Inter 11-0 at this rate. fudges sake Stramacioni you taco do fudging something!
fudging Hodgson could do a better job than that!

Oh Look Parker giving it the Willem Defoe in Platoon again

Hilarious amount of fear about playing Spurs on here
We're just a tad better than this Inter "team" at the moment

Another example of that Spurs high line.. We can rip their backline apart on Sunday

Spurs almost always start the game where they just blitz the opposition and are almost always up 2-0 very early. It happens in so many matches its ridiculous. Same thing happened against Arsenal on Sunday and the same thing happened against us at White Hart Lane earlier in the season.

I'm sure Rodgers will be watching tonight, and he knows if they don't score in that opening 20-25 minutes there is a good chance of beating them at Anfield.

May as well just not turn up on Sunday, considering Spurs are now the best team in the world.

There isn't many weaknesses in this spurs team at the moment. They are in red hot form. A draw on Sunday would be very acceptable.

It absolutely would not

We HAVE to win against spurs on sunday. A draw is fail.

It will be a privilege just to be on the same pitch as them.

One of the worst Inter teams I have ever seen.

The Inter team that Rafa guided into the relegation zone and out of all the cups was the worst i've seen.
 
they're so deluded it's actually getting to the point where it isn't funny.. but it's still funny.. and enraging. i hope we smash them with a 'lucky' bale hattrick.
 
Can someone PLEASE find out if Lennon is injured or not? Although, saying that, I dont think that a minor Lennon injury is AS disastrous for us as it was this time last year...we've managed to mitigate other injuries this season, so I still have faith in whatever team we put out.
 
they're so deluded it's actually getting to the point where it isn't funny.. but it's still funny.. and enraging. i hope we smash them with a 'lucky' bale hattrick.


It's more funny if we thrash them. Agreed.


Apparently Bale's 'lucky goals' have to stop soon.
 
they're so deluded it's actually getting to the point where it isn't funny.. but it's still funny.. and enraging. i hope we smash them with a 'lucky' bale hattrick.

It's like attributing all of Suarez's goals to the sheer power of his racism.
 
Used to write off our annual visit to Anfield, but no more! Bale against Carragher - can't wait! Keep Freddie quiet and we're home & dry.

0-2 Bale (of course), Carragher O.G (of course)

COYS!
 
And now for their match thread:

Odds of ledley fudging king making a comeback for his one and only game

I can't stand them. It's the accent of the fan I think that really twists my irrational hatred towards rage. That cross between Delboy and your worst London cabbie with a pitch of Dennis Wise saying "geezshah, havyveebee bin 'avin a larf n dat. Ish all abbaairt 'arry'sh boysh and Bale innit"

We'll do them.

Think we'll be up for it and think the Kop will be up for it.

Nothing like showing the world why our Luis is miles better than Gareth fudging Bale.

Must admit that I harbor a strong dislike for all things Spurs as well which is rather unfortunate considering that my four best mates are all 'yids' as they call themselves. Not sure if it's the constant brick they chat or just the way that Spurs are living on borrowed time at the moment that makes me feel that way but if anybody needs to suffer a football death it's definitely that lot.

I think Lucas will make Bale look very average. Sturridge and Suarez will give their CBs a nightmare. 3-1 win which will hopefully start a significant winless streak for Spurs

Well we are certainly overdue a win against this lot, and we certainly have the players to do it.
If we play like we all know that we can, I'm confident of 3 points. No brain farts at the back please!

Will be a great for us to see how far we've come, both teams in form and playing well.

We played spurs off the park at the lane and if we can do another of those performances i think we could maybe do them, but with liverpool, you never know.

Apart from the 4-0 which I thankfully missed being abroad...have them ever and I mean ever deservedly beaten us?

The year we finished second when we mullered them and they scored jammy goals..this season at the lane
I'm going back the 80's too when they did a smash and grab with Garth fudging Crookes spawning a goal kop end

And the vast majority of their fans spout the glory glory brick you mention above whilst single handedly failing to grasp the fact they've won the league twice in that glorious history - the same as Burnley and less than Blackburn.

Plus up til this season they has the stupidest way of selling beer with a bunch of students behind a grill having to open up bottles and slowly decant every fudging one of them..

Same 11 for me. Bring on Sterling for Coutinho. I can't see past a draw at worst.

Really, really hope we beat these. I hate the thought of that prick Bale doing that stupid fudging heart celebration at Anfield.

where's Charlie Adam when you need him?? a nice early hard tackle on Bale should sort him, we owe these tossers

Are Spurs forums full off debate on whether to drop their best players or not? No fudge that, get Suarez in behind Sturridge with Coutinho on the left and let them worry about us. We're at home, impose our game on them, this is one of the teams we want to compete with next season. There's no point bricking ourselves when we play them. A midfield of Gerrard, Shelvey, and Allen were able to dominate Emirates Marketing Project at the start of the season. Lucas Gerrard and Suarez are much better than that, and it's not like Suarez won't press like a mad man. He just needs to be told not to try and beat anyone in his own half.

Hey ladies, this is a Liverpool footy forum, not a knitting circle. Stop being such fudging massive quims. Positivity only. Repeat after me ...

"We"....."Are"......"Going"....."To"......."taco"......."These"........"c*nts"...."Regardless"....."Of"......."Whether"......"They've"......"Got"......"Magilla"........"Gorilla"........"Or"......"The"....."Whole"....."fudging"....."Cast"......."Of"....."Planet"....."Of"......."The"......"Apes"......"Playing"......"For"....."Them"

Let's do them and show them what Liverpool is all about.

fudging Spurs. I'd be more confident playing Barcalona or Bayern than these c*nts. Even with 2 tough games since we last played you just know they'll all be on top form on Sunday. That said Spurs' performance at Anfield last season bordered on the cowardly.
 
"Let's do them and show them what Liverpool is all about"

Finishing outside the top 6?

Having despicable racist **** players and fans?

Still thinking you are the best team in England despite the league table suggesting otherwise?
 
'One day, people will hopefully look back and say "I was there son. I was there the year that Spurs won nothing again. I was there. I watched them play football, like other clubs played football, but not quite the same because there was a difference in their football, and I was there. I can tell you some stories about the three trophies Spurs won from 1982 onwards. Stories of bravery, how we sacrificed all other trophies during the same period because three was quite enough. Our status as a huge fudging juggernaut of a club was solidified with just those three. Players from all over the continent and the world said "Who?" when they were asked about us, sometimes turning the volume down on their tv just to do so, as they did not wish to be distracted by the sounds of Liverpool winning yet another trophy in late February 2012, taking their total to something astronomical. I can tell you some stories, my lad. Stories of bravery, of daring managers who hid cash from people who actually wanted that cash, stories of monkey looking players who also won absolutely nothing, stories of players leaving the summer afterwards and us suddenly realising we'd not win anything anymore at the same time as not actually winning anything....."

The opening to their match-thread on RAWK.
 
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Oh, and here, lifted directly from the Chelsea forum (Shed End) that I remember perusing a while back. Interesting reading. Dates from the time Torres signed for Chelsea, if it wasn't clear:

Let me try and explain Liverpool Football Club and why they have so many representatives in the media, why they seem to get away with anything, why they are so distressed about Torres leaving and why this all leads to Chelsea being openly hated.

It’s quite simple and fascinating. Liverpool (the “club”, which is like any other football club, no more than an abstract concept built on concrete facts like past records, a stadium and supporters), the fans and many of their former players show the same behaviour traits displayed by followers of major religions. Once you begin to understand this and how it manifests itself, the anger dies down.

The closest comparison is with the Catholic Church and Islam. Both powerful religions obsessed with being big. Obsessed with the number of followers they have and obsessed with preserving their beliefs even when faced with evidence that disproves or just challenges their long-held assumptions.

Ritual, as we know, is a key element to religious behaviour. “You’ll Never Walk Alone” is an incredible example of this. It is sung with religious fervour and is about surrendering individuality for the group. It is a defining moment for all Liverpool followers. No other football chant comes close. And they ask everyone who hears it to comment on it. They ask us to confirm that it is the loudest, most awe-inspiring, most spine-tingling, most religious moment we have ever experienced. And it is repeated word-for-word, note-for-note before every match as a gospel choir would sing in church. It does not behave like a football chant. There is no humour, no taunting the opposition, no jolly lads getting ready for 90 minutes of support and abuse. It is born-again, wide-eyed fervour.

Repetition is, of course, a central factor to the belief system and that is why every Liverpool follower (I choose this word above supporter), is primed to say exactly the same as every other Liverpool follower. There can be no deviation from the true path. Have you ever met a Liverpool follower who would dare to say that YNWA is a dreadful chant or that talking about “history” is a load of bunkum? This kind of deviation is not allowed and if someone dared to say such a thing then the simple answer would be that he is not a true follower because a true follower would not say such a thing.

History. What is this fascination with history? Football is really only about the present and memory. It is not about history. Most supporters know all about their team. They know the great players, cups won and disappointments along the way. But history? This is something that religions do in order to create a back story on which to build a myth. Liverpool has no more history than Crewe Alexandra or Queens Park Rangers, although it has certainly had more success. Success can be measured and although Liverpool’s followers like to quote their successes (and fear being surpassed), it is something that is ultimately too risky to build a belief system upon. In fact, this season Manchester United could become more “successful” than Liverpool in domestic league titles. For this reason Liverpool’s belief system is built on an abstract concept (history) rather than something that is scientifically provable (league titles). In fact, the more Liverpool stopped winning things, the more “history” became the currency for their beliefs.

Only recently have we heard commentators say on television that even with all Chelsea’s money and recent success, they will never have Liverpool’s history. Of course that is true because nobody knows what it means to have another club’s history and nobody could ever be anybody else anyway! This is a trick that religions have been using for thousands of years and why it is practically impossible to debate with “true believers”.

As an aside, an interesting comparison can be made between Liverpool and Everton and one that a football anthropologist would do well to study and report on in detail. The followers / supporters of these clubs display very different traits even though they may come from the same families, live in the same streets, go to the same schools. Everton play the theme tune from Z Cars when the team runs out and talk about the School of Science. They support their club and leave it at that. I would love to see some genetic research on those who choose to be a Blue and those who opt for the Reds in Liverpool. If, as neuroscientists are attempting to locate at the moment, there is a “GHod gene”, I would imagine it is more prevalent in Liverpool followers than Everton supporters. (This doesn’t mean they are closer to GHod but more disposed to believing in one).

It is often remarked that there are more ex-Liverpool players in the media and on football programmes than any other club. Match of the Day is a good example where the definition of a balanced view is to listen to Alan Hansen first and then Mark Lawrenson. But why does this happen? Again, the answer lies in religion or how Liverpool displays all the traits of religion at its worst. There are not more Liverpool representatives because they have history or had success. That would be ridiculous. And statistically Liverpool has had the same number of players in the last 40 years as any other club and they are only one of about 45 teams that have been in the top division during this period, which makes it unlikely that any club would be represented by more than a couple of ex-players on television. But, like religious followers, the ex-players are believers and believers want to be heard. (Evolutionary biologists describe the meme theory where beliefs are transmitted by individuals or a group. This may be how religions survive and so the analogy holds in this case). It is essential for the Liverpool story to be told over and over again and therefore it needs storytellers. This subconsciously propels ex-players from Liverpool to become spokesmen and storytellers and thus perpetuate the myth. The only other club that does this is Arsenal, where it has convinced its own followers first and then the wider public that it has a “way of doing things”. But we can leave Arsenal for another day.

And all this brings us up to Fernando Torres. He is a footballer. He played for Liverpool. He is a good footballer. He decided he wanted to move to another club (in much the same way he decided he wanted to move to Liverpool four years ago). This happens all the time. Footballers either stay at one club all their career or move. These are the only two things they can do. We are all used to it. But something very different has happened here. In fact, something religious has happened.

Fernando Torres was loved at Liverpool. He had a special status like a saint or a leader. And he became an apostate. In religious terms, this is as bad as it gets. No matter how big or how powerful a religion is, the “church” is rocked to its foundations when someone chooses to leave or step outside the line. In Islam, apostates are killed. Think of Salman Rushdie. He wrote a book where he imagined some scenes that involved the prophet having sex. This led to death threats, book burning, flag burning and the incredible scenes of followers of an enormous religion feeling threatened by the words of one man. The lesson is simple. When you are in the club, the church, the movement you do not criticise and you always follow the party line. You’ll Never Walk Alone. The Biggest. History.

Fernando Torres angered his followers by becoming an apostate and daring to say that he was moving somewhere else that might be bigger. And just like across the muslim world the same reaction happened on Merseyside. Book burning, shirt burning. And to back up the meme theory, this was transmitted through the media. It was considered a subject for debate even though the conclusion was never in doubt (as it never is with religious followers). TORRES DID NOT MOVE TO A BIGGER CLUB. HE IS A BAD MAN. HE HAS LIED.

And so Torres has moved from saint to apostate to sinner to Judas figure. And he has been replaced by a second coming, by a brighter future because religions don’t like to lie down and admit defeat. They are never wrong. Every Liverpool follower is now saying exactly the same thing. They did best out of the deal. They got two for one. They traded in someone past his best. They are happy. The religion was challenged but it has come out on top. They will never walk alone.

I could go on about how they have created a GHod out of Shankly. Someone who is often quoted, even though he didn’t really ever say that much which is particularly illuminating or original. I could also mention the self-pity (another religious characteristic) and their desire to always be a part of every tragedy. In fact, once you start the more you realise how interesting it is that in England there are so many football clubs but only one that stands out for displaying the behaviour traits of a religion.

Religions do need other religions in order to survive. It may be argued that through memes they create other religions themselves along their evolutionary path (Judaism to Christianity to Islam as well as the different branches specifically within Judaism and Christianity). Opposition is a necessary factor for belonging. And, for another day, this is why the new Chelsea myth exists and why “pundits” (followers of Liverpool) are openly antagonistic towards Chelsea, something which they would not do to any other club. Chelsea is a threat and must be treated that way, according to the followers of the Liverpool religion.

But I don’t want to linger on Chelsea, or why Manchester United has continued being successful without displaying the same traits as Liverpool or why nobody has ever considered if Bolton Wanderers, West Bromwich Albion or West Ham United have a history. I just want to show why we all find it so frustrating listening to the nonsense that is spoken about Liverpool and by their followers. And once we begin to understand that it is like listening to a Moonie talking about being saved or a theologian cloaked in mythology masquerading as fact “proving” that miracles really do happen that we realise that we will never be able to argue with Liverpool followers. They are too far gone. And quite simply, that means they are too far away from truth, reality and knowing how to have a good time.

link (because even Chelsea fans deserve to have their work acknowledged); http://www.chelseasupportersgroup.net/2011/02/the-liverpool-myth/
 
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As someone of Asian origin I loathe Liverpool, or as I prefer to call them Southall FC,Pride of Hounslow, given that's where the majority of the Liverpool "fans" I know hail from. They look down on other fans with some strange false sense of superiority whilst clinging onto the fact they are the biggest club in the world with 14556655 league titles and 245666775 European Cups. They act like they are part of some cult of superior football fans as if waving your scarves in the air and chanting about how you can't march together because you want to walk alone and writing YNWA ( is that the junior version of the 80s rap group?) sets you apart from others. However they fail to acknowledge the fact that they would have supported Darlington if they were winning titles in the 80s and if they were born five years later they'd all be United fans,the club they apparently loathe so much. They are the original plastic fans and can't stand the fact they aren't top dogs any more, deep down inside they wish they could support United or City or Chelsea or whoever the latest champions are.
I'm sure there are decent Liverpool fans out tree but the Asian Liverpool Fringe or ALF ruin their reputation; their definition of supporting their team is to goto Spice Rack in Stanmore in a Liverpool shirt with Suarez on the back and watch the game on Sky.
Having said all that I still think they'll beat us on Sunday, no doubt my mobile will be full of texts from my cousins sitting and watching it at the Hare and Hound in Osterley gloating that Southall FC are back
 
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