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***Tottenham Hotspur v Fulham OMT***

THFC6061

THFC6061

Paul Robinson
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Tottenham Hotspur host Fulham at White Hart Lane on Sunday 17th March 2013 (KO 15:00) in the 30th match of the 2012-13 Premier League season.

Spurs come into the match in 3rd place on 54 points while Fulham are in 10th place on 33 points.

This will be the 138th time the two clubs have met and the 24th time in the Premier League.

Fulham were founded in 1879 as Fulham St Andrew's Church Sunday School FC and played under the name Fulham Excelsior until 1888. The first meeting with Tottenham, who were founded three years later than Fulham in 1882, came in the Southern League in September 1903 at Craven Cottage and resulted in a 0-0 draw. The reverse fixture at White Hart Lane in January 1904 was won by Spurs 1-0.

Spurs and Fulham also competed in the London League and both fixtures that season were won by Spurs 2-1 at home and 5-1 away.

The clubs competed against each other for three more seasons in the Southern League with Fulham winning four games, Spurs winning one and the remaining match drawn. Spurs were Southern League Champions in 1899-1900 and Fulham Champions twice in 1905-06 and 1906-07.

There were also two seasons in the Western League in 1904-05 and 1905-06 with Spurs winning twice, Fulham once and one game drawn.

The clubs met on tour in May 1907 in Ostend, Belgium in a match which Spurs won 2-1.

The first Football League meeting between the clubs came in the Second Division in December 1908 at Craven Cottage with Spurs winning 3-2. Tottenham also won the home fixture in April 1909 1-0 with the great Vivian Woodward scoring the winning goal. A few months earlier, Woodward had captained the Great Britain football team to their second of three Olympic Games Gold Medals.

Sandwiched in between those first League encounters was the first FA Cup match in the old second round (today's fourth round) at White Hart Lane, which was won by Spurs 2-0. To date, the clubs have met 8 times in the FA Cup with Spurs winning 5 games, Fulham once and 2 draws.

As Spurs had won promotion to the First Division after their maiden season, there were no more League meetings with Fulham until after the First World War.

During the War, the clubs met frequently in the various competitions which were created to provide entertainment for the masses and many of Tottenham Hotspur's "home" matches were played at Arsenal's Highbury Stadium as White Hart Lane had been requisitioned by the Army.

When football resumed in 1919, Spurs had lost their First Division status to Arsenal under contraversial circumstances and met Fulham in the Second Division in December at Craven Cottage in a game Spurs won 4-1. The reverse fixture was also won by Spurs 4-0 on their way to the Second Division Championship.

There were no more competitive matches with Fulham until Spurs were relegated to the Second Division in 1932-33 and both fixtures ended in draws. There were four more seasons of Second Division football before the outbreak of World War Two and honours were even with two wins apiece and four draws in those eight matches.

Spurs and Fulham met 13 times during the War with Tottenham winning nine games, Fulham one and three drawn matches. The clubs met in the Second Division for the first three seasons after the War with one win each and four games drawn.

Spurs won the First Division Championship in 1950-51 and in the process did the "double" over Fulham 1-0 away and 2-1 at home.

The clubs met for another 10 seasons in the First Division up to 1967-68 with Spurs winning 12 games, Fulham one and 7 games drawn.

The next League meetings came in the Second Division in 1977-78 with Spurs taking four point off Fulham as they regained their Top Flight status. The first of three Football League Cup meetings came in December 1981 with Spurs winning 1-0 at the Lane with a Micky Hazard goal.

Fulham were promoted to the Premier League for season 2001-02 and they've kept their place in the League ever since. Spurs have won eleven of the 23 games played so far with Fulham winning six and six matches have been drawn.

The match at Craven Cottage in October 2010 was won by Spurs 2-1 with goals from Roman Pavlyuchenko and Tom Huddlestone with Diomansy Kamara getting Fulham's goal, while the reverse fixture at White Hart Lane on New Year's Day was won by Spurs with a Gareth Bale goal.

Fulham had a very impressive 4-0 win over Spurs in the fourth round of the 2010-11 FA Cup at Craven Cottage. Danny Murphy put the West Londoners two goals up before Michael Dawson was sent-off for Spurs. Brede Hangeland and Moussa Dembele added further first half goals.

In June 2011, Fulham appointed former Spurs manager (2004-07) Martin Jol on a two year contract to replace Mark Hughes as the Cottager's new manager. Both Spurs and Fulham participated in the 2011-12 UEFA Europa League.

The fixture at Craven Cottage last season in November 2011 resulted in a 3-1 win for Tottenham. Fulham's Chris Baird deflected Gareth Bale's shot into the net after 10 minutes and Aaron Lennon scored on 45 minutes to give Spurs a 2-0 halftime lead. Younes Kaboul scored an own goal after 57 minutes but Jermain Defoe's 90th minute goal ensured that Spurs went away with all three points.

Spurs completed the 2011-12 double over Fulham with a 2-0 home win on the last day of the season which secured 4th place. Emmanuel Adebayor put Spurs ahead in the 2nd minute and a 63rd minute goal from Jermain Defoe secured the three points.

During the summer of 2012, former Spurs striker Dimitar Berbatov joined Fulham from Manchester United while midfielder Mousa Dembele and striker Clint Dempsey both joined Tottenham from Fulham. The match at Craven cottage in December 2012 resulted in a 3-0 win for Tottenham with Sandro putting Spurs ahead after 55 minutes and a brace from Jermain Defoe securing the 3 points.

Overall, Spurs have won 71 of the 137 matches played, Fulham have won 30 and the remaining 36 games have been drawn.


Steve Archibald
Dimitar Berbatov
Ernie Bowering
Michael Brown
Laurie Brown
Vic Buckingham (Spurs player, Fulham manager)
Ron Burgess (Spurs player, Fulham coach)
Roger Cross (Fulham player, Spurs asst. manager)
John Curtis
Sean Davis
Simon Davies
Mousa Dembele
Clint Dempsey
Terry Dyson
Bert Elkin
Harry Evans (Fulham player, Spurs asst. manager)
Ray Evans
Willie Evans
Tom Fitchie
Theo Foley (Spurs res. manager, Fulham youth manager)
Matt Forster (Spurs player, Fulham scout)
Phil Gray
Martin Jol (Manager with both clubs)
Cliff Jones
David Gwilan Jones
Stephen Kelly
Paul Konchesky
John Lacy
Harry Lowe
Ken McKay
Tom Meade
Terry Medwin (Spurs player, Fulham coach)
Paul Mahorn
Steed Malbranque
John Margerrison
Alan Mullery
Danny Murphy
Taffy O'Callaghan
Tim O'Shea
Frank Osborne
Tony Parks
Ernie Payne
Tom Pratt
Jimmy Reid
Wayne Routledge
Louis Saha
Hans Segers (Spurs player, Fulham coach)
Neil Smith
Paul Stalteri
Bob Stevens
Alf Stokes
Bob Tannahill
Charlie Walters
Bobby Zamora

 
Tough game.

-----------------------Lloris------------------------
Walker-------Dawson-------Caulker------Ekotto
---------------Parker---------Dembele-----------
-------Lennon--------Bale-----------Siggy-------
---------------------Adebayor---------------------
 
Christ we could do with resting those two but without Dembele and I can't see us winning. I'd trust Livermoe to play 45 mins which should mean Parker can do the rest.

Loris
Walker Dawson Verts BAE
Lennon Parker (Livermore second half) Dembele (Holtby second half) Bale
Ade Gylfi
 
No resting anyone in this one. MUST WIN. Then there's a break for internationals.

Whatever you decide AVB, but NO Livermore.
 
I am worried about our central midfield. Parker and Dembele have both played a lot of football lately (Parker after a long injury lay-off), played 120 minutes today, and Dembele even perhaps picked up a concussion. We don't anyone to replace them with that fills me with confidence either. Could Hudd perhaps come in and do a good job? I am a fan of him, but he hasn't looked good earlier in the season. Fulham is the kind of team that might give him a bit of time to play though. They are not normally the most aggressive of teams.

Apart from the central midfield, we should be alright. We can change three out four at the back if we want to. Bale will return with fresh legs, and Lennon only played for 50 minutes today and should be ready to start. Dempsey might also be available, and Defoe went off early and could play if Ade is knackered.
 
Fulham were interested in Carroll weren't they? Could be a time to show them what they're missing.

Parker seems to become more of a caricature of himself with every game, once he starts tiring I think young Tom can do a very good job as he showed us against West Ham.
 
I would rather see Carroll in there than Hudd tbh, since Fulham are a good passing side and will pass around him with ease. Carroll is lightweight but I remember one of the coaches (Sherwood?) saying the ground he covers is second highest in our squad. Holtby looks strangely unfit atm though I'm not sure if it's a mental pressure sort of thing, he does get around but his touch and control are way off.

Mainly, I just don't want to see Defoe near the starting line-up. And *especially* not both Ade and Defoe. Hell, I'd rather play Gylfi as a false 9, he works hard and has a better touch and more presence than Ade these days, and he links up well with Bale who is really our only scoring threat (besides Vertonghen). Usually you want a striker there because they are more clinical and they make those clever forward runs, however neither Ade or Defoe actually make those runs and they waste the opportunities they do get with their terrible shooting and nonexistent aerial ability. Gylfi has no acceleration or aerial prowess either but at least he can at least link up play and spot+execute the quick ball through to Bale.

Fulham are not the most aggressive or pacy side but they are good at overloading midfield; I can still remember them absolutely destroying us last season, though we had enough quality back then to cut them apart with Ade and VdV on the break. I think we need a three-man mid for this to hold our ground in midfield, with a passer (Carroll, Holtby) and a runner (Dembele) shuttling around the DM (Parker); Gylfi and Bale will interchange for that central AM space and Dembele will burst into the box. I'd also like to give Walker a rest, he's been played too much this season and his head is out the window right now.

---Bale---Gylfi---Lennon
--Carroll--------Dembele--
----------Parker---------
BAE--Daws--Verts---Naughton

But the main thing is that every single one of them has to put in a shift. I am worried too about how much time Dembele and Parker have clocked so far but we really have no choice unless you are willing to put up with Livermore; so I think there has to be another CM there, particularly a high-passing type, to relieve some pressure off them.
 
skyfarer said:
I would rather see Carroll in there than Hudd tbh, since Fulham are a good passing side and will pass around him with ease. Carroll is lightweight but I remember one of the coaches (Sherwood?) saying the ground he covers is second highest in our squad. Holtby looks strangely unfit atm though I'm not sure if it's a mental pressure sort of thing, he does get around but his touch and control are way off.

Mainly, I just don't want to see Defoe near the starting line-up. And *especially* not both Ade and Defoe. Hell, I'd rather play Gylfi as a false 9, he works hard and has a better touch and more presence than Ade these days, and he links up well with Bale who is really our only scoring threat (besides Vertonghen). Usually you want a striker there because they are more clinical and they make those clever forward runs, however neither Ade or Defoe actually make those runs and they waste the opportunities they do get with their terrible shooting and nonexistent aerial ability. Gylfi has no acceleration or aerial prowess either but at least he can at least link up play and spot+execute the quick ball through to Bale.

Fulham are not the most aggressive or pacy side but they are good at overloading midfield; I can still remember them absolutely destroying us last season, though we had enough quality back then to cut them apart with Ade and VdV on the break. I think we need a three-man mid for this to hold our ground in midfield, with a passer (Carroll, Holtby) and a runner (Dembele) shuttling around the DM (Parker); Gylfi and Bale will interchange for that central AM space and Dembele will burst into the box. I'd also like to give Walker a rest, he's been played too much this season and his head is out the window right now.

---Bale---Gylfi---Lennon
--Carroll--------Dembele--
----------Parker---------
BAE--Daws--Verts---Naughton

But the main thing is that every single one of them has to put in a shift. I am worried too about how much time Dembele and Parker have clocked so far but we really have no choice unless you are willing to put up with Livermore; so I think there has to be another CM there, particularly a high-passing type, to relieve some pressure off them.
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SPURS SQUAD MINUTES PLAYED 2012-13 (updated after Inter Milan away)

3,508 Walker
3,346 Vertonghen
3,258 Lennon
3,080 Bale
2,736 Defoe
2,365 Dembele
2,250 Lloris
2,187 Dempsey
2,140 Sandro
2,131 Caulker
1,916 Gallas
1,696 Dawson
1,647 Adebayor
1,625 Naughton
1,596 Sigurðsson
1,560 Friedel
1,294 Parker
1,120 Assou-Ekotto
1,082 Huddlestone
571 Livermore
402 Carroll
382 Holtby
231 Falque
209 Townsend
90 Kaboul
90 Adam Smith
90 Cudicini
84 Van der Vaart
75 Mason
46 Obika
14 Jenas
5 Kane
0 Gomes
0 Coulthirst
0 Parrett
0 Stewart
 
I guess "time" is not the way to put it since they've been out for long stretches this season - more the fact they play intensely, covering a brickload of ground with both defensive and offensive duties, and rarely get rested midweek. (Ade/Defoe OTOH could play every day and not be tired. :lol:) I would say the same for Bale but he is a physical freak of nature like Ronaldo and seems to be on a mental high right now.
 
Interesting that Spurs have now conceded 50 goals this season which is exactly split between Brad Friedel & Hugo Lloris with 25 conceded each.

However, Lloris has conceded a goal on average for every 90 minutes played compared with Friedel conceding a goal on average for every 62.4 minutes played.
 
THFC6061 said:
Interesting that Spurs have now conceded 50 goals this season which is exactly split between Brad Friedel & Hugo Lloris with 25 conceded each.

However, Lloris has conceded a goal on average for every 90 minutes played compared with Friedel conceding a goal on average for every 62.4 minutes played.
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Interesting?


It's pretty simple really. Which one of them was playing when the defenders were trying to get used to the high line?


Lloris is obviously the superior goalkeeper, yes. But that stat does little to prove it.
 
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