Soldado - Ade

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http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/soldado-on-ade-partnership-150114/

Roberto's faith in Ade pairing

Our Spanish international striker, currently our top scorer with 10 goals in all competitions, has been paired with resurgent front man Ade as part of a two-pronged attack over the last few weeks.

And considering we’re unbeaten in the Premier League since Roberto and Ade have formed their front line double-act in our starting line-up – having won four and drawn one of our five top flight games since the pairing debuted at Southampton on December 22 – the former Valencia marksman expects his tandem exploits with the Togolese target man to yield further success in the near future.

“I think my partnership with Ade is a really good thing,” said 28-year-old Roberto. “It makes my life much easier as well because I feel safe knowing that he’s around, that I can count on him in this playing dynamic.

“We work very well together and I think that really sends out a very clear message to our opponents’ defence. I think they are very fearful of us because we do contribute that element of surprise.

“I think our team is also very much aware of that. It’s something we’ve built up together and it’s a really positive thing.”

The pairing of Roberto and Ade combined to great effect at Southampton, with Ade opening our account by getting on the end of Roberto’s precision cross from wide on the left.

It was a side of Roberto’s game that perhaps we hadn’t seen previously due to his more central location in matches earlier in the season – but the dedicated forward reckons we’ll get to see plenty more fluidity in attack as he and Ade nurture their partnership going forward.

“I don’t think it’s really a new thing, I just think with this dynamic that involves having two strikers up front it means that we can move around a lot more than before,” Roberto added.

“Whereas before there was maybe only one, they were kind of fixed to that area, there was not as much freedom to move around, but now with this new-found freedom we can create more opportunities, we have more space to move around and I guess what happened with Southampton and also the penalty against Stoke is a great example of how I was able to make the most of that freedom of movement and that space.

“I think that it’s a really positive thing that we can move around a bit more because now one of us can have that freedom of movement around the area whereas the other striker perhaps is more focussed on the area itself.”

 

[africanspurs]

drop solly and play lamela.

mostly out of curiosity and skill set versus being able to actually deliver something on field

 

[spurs' magna carter]

Really out of the blue this one, very enjoyable watching them though, their movement and awareness of each other is a joy to watch when it's in full swing.

This partnership could end up being very important for our season....

 

[diego_maradona]

Just want to see Soldado start scoring now.

 

[Truth]

Not a fan of this partnership, because

a. I think Soldado is very, very poor;
b. I think should Soldado be dropped, either Lamela would take his place, which will be exciting, or a defensive midfielder, allowing Eriksen, Lennon and Dembele to play further up the field.

 

[Gutter Boy]

I want to see Soldado supported by the two Eriks as inside forwards.

 

[Truth]

I want to see Soldado supported by the two Eriks as inside forwards.

Wait, what? You'd drop Adebayor? He's our most important player - and that's in part because his competition, Soldado and Defoe, are not good enough.

I do like the idea of that system with Ade, though.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Wait, what? You'd drop Adebayor? He's our most important player - and that's in part because his competition, Soldado and Defoe, are not good enough.

I do like the idea of that system with Ade, though.

Soldado is a top player, he just needs the right kind of service. I think the Eriks in tandem would give him this.

 

[Cochise]

Soldado's link up play has been top notch so far, he's just missed some very good oppurtunities. Ade is a monster when on form and people can't get the ball off him, but his shooting isn't that great and even in recent games he's looked lazy at times.

With GB's formation, the question is whether Eriksen and Lamela are feeding the striker or are they working off him. If the former then a finisher is what's needed. If the latter then Ade is the player we need and he is the one we needed from the very start with AVBs 4231 imo. I for one believe that Soldado can do a job up front alone, but he needs to be supported which was the problem all along under AVB.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Soldado's link up play has been top notch so far, he's just missed some very good oppurtunities. Ade is a monster when on form and people can't get the ball off him, but his shooting isn't that great and even in recent games he's looked lazy at times.

With GB's formation, the question is whether Eriksen and Lamela are feeding the striker or are they working off him. If the former then a finisher is what's needed. If the latter then Ade is the player we need and he is the one we needed from the very start with AVBs 4231 imo. I for one believe that Soldado can do a job up front alone, but he needs to be supported which was the problem all along under AVB.

Good observation.

The Eriks will feed the striker - neither will particularly get beyond him, the way say Bale or van der Vaart did with Ade.

It's why I think it needs to be Soldado rather than Ade up there with them.

 

[Mulletperm]

Not a fan of this partnership, because

a. I think Soldado is very, very poor;
b. I think should Soldado be dropped, either Lamela would take his place, which will be exciting, or a defensive midfielder, allowing Eriksen, Lennon and Dembele to play further up the field.

:-k

 

[Cochise]

Good observation.

The Eriks will feed the striker - neither will particularly get beyond him, the way say Bale or van der Vaart did with Ade.

It's why I think it needs to be Soldado rather than Ade up there with them.

I like the sound of it, but I think we would still require someone to get up alongside him or ahead of him at times. I think it was on one of the footballers football show episodes where they spoke about it being easy to mark one striker with two defenders unless you have a few more options going on around the pitch. The advantage of having one striker is that you can have more movement in the midfield and therefore more options, like the goons with any of their four moving in to Girouds space. The whole squad seems designed for different styles of play and to settle on any one will mean the exlusion of some decent players

 

[Nigeyman]

In terms of partnerships its at the back where we need to sort things out and have a plan for the future..

What we need is a cb pairing that rarely gets injured and can keep playing together to gain consistency....You look at the other lot and they have been able to play Koscielny & Metersacker regulary for nearly a year now.....Kaboul's injury record is against him and Daws has struggled this season in the main. The main partnership I want to see is Vertonghen & Chiriches at cb given a good run of games.

Ade & Solly as a partnership is not the worst partnership I have seen but its not that dynamic either.....Due to the rigours of playing up front we will need to call on 4 players for our attacking positions, rotate and find the Partnership which we can use to best affect playing our best 11. We really need to try Chadli or Lamela behind one of the two.

I actually think it may do Soldado some good to come on as an impact sub for at least a couple of games.

The main worry with the pair of them is if they dont work hard enough in a starting lineup which effectively means we are playing 4-4-0 as was evident for most of the first half vs Palace.....something which if repated on Sunday will burst our little bubble of form and mean defeat at the liberty.

I dont think this Partnership is dynamic enough nor does it have too much longetivity....We will be much better prepared for the future if we get one of the younger players....Chadli/Lamela.....in and around Ade/Solly

 

[africanspurs]

Soldado is a top player, he just needs the right kind of service. I think the Eriks in tandem would give him this.

he has already had that and he flopped his lines badly

not to mention that i doubt that they could forge better chances than he has been getting recently , which IMO defoe would hav buried. any better chance and you would literrally be giving him the ball on the goal line like it was a penalty and bribing the opposition to watch him on the big screen at the half way line

he could still miss

 

[africanspurs]

Good observation.

The Eriks will feed the striker - neither will particularly get beyond him, the way say Bale or van der Vaart did with Ade.

It's why I think it needs to be Soldado rather than Ade up there with them.

i dont like it

and i know why you said that

but that aside........soldado cant be that good if he needs so much change just for him to play. its ridiculous, he isnt a playmaker, hs is the guy thats suppposed to finish things off

and his lone striker play in the premiership is not good enough

he needs help

 

[milo]

drop solly and play lamela.

mostly out of curiosity and skill set versus being able to actually deliver something on field

I disagree. Other than the Palace game, I think that Soldado has looked greatly improved under Sherwood and his partnership with Ade is working well. All Soldado needs is a goal or two from open play to get him going.

I would be interested in seeing Lamela coming off the bench to play behind the striker (either Ade or Soldado). If it is how Sherwood intends to deploy Lamela it needs to be tried and for the players to get used to it. I think that Lamela looks like a good player but he is just trying a little too hard to impress at the moment and we need to get him to relax a bit.

My only concern about playing Lamela in the hole is that our current formation requires the strikers to drop deep into midfield to stop us getting out numbered there and Lamela isn't anywhere near as strong as Ade or Soldado and the defensive side of his game has looked weak so far.

 

[scaramanga]

I like the sound of it, but I think we would still require someone to get up alongside him or ahead of him at times. I think it was on one of the footballers football show episodes where they spoke about it being easy to mark one striker with two defenders unless you have a few more options going on around the pitch. The advantage of having one striker is that you can have more movement in the midfield and therefore more options, like the goons with any of their four moving in to Girouds space. The whole squad seems designed for different styles of play and to settle on any one will mean the exlusion of some decent players

Paulinho plus late-arriving fullbacks.

 

[Gutter Boy]

I like the sound of it, but I think we would still require someone to get up alongside him or ahead of him at times. I think it was on one of the footballers football show episodes where they spoke about it being easy to mark one striker with two defenders unless you have a few more options going on around the pitch. The advantage of having one striker is that you can have more movement in the midfield and therefore more options, like the goons with any of their four moving in to Girouds space. The whole squad seems designed for different styles of play and to settle on any one will mean the exlusion of some decent players

That's where Paulinho comes into. He's the man to get up into the box alongside Soldado. We sasw glimpses of this in a couple of AVB's last matches.

Tbh the only player in our squad excluded by playing possession football is Defoe. The players excluded by playing Timmeh's 'smash n grab' brand are pretty much all of them except Lennon, Townsend and Ade.

 

[Raziel]

but that aside........soldado cant be that good if he needs so much change just for him to play. its ridiculous, he isnt a playmaker, hs is the guy thats suppposed to finish things off

and his lone striker play in the premiership is not good enough

Hard to judge an out of form player in an unsettled team in a new league.

The problem really is, Soldado at this point is the only striker we have who has to be on the team sheet, what other options are there?

JD - He's gone, obviously we have never really considered him good enough to be #1, so why make him that now?
Ade - He's on his game now, but we all know it will fade, is it a game, a month, sooner or later we will see the bad side.
Kane - Not good enough, and certainly not to get a game in front of any of the others.

So you are left with Soldado, obviously off his game, but lots of evidence to prove he has the capacity to deliver.

My opinion

- We play Ade/Soldado as long as Ade gives a ****
- We sub one or the other during games and try options in the hole/feeding (Eriks?)
- We buy a striker option as cover (after we get a LB)
- Hope Soldado finds form

 

[Jordinho]

Ade's form has been on the wane for at least 2/3 games already. I'd rather drop him for another creative player.