Mathys Tel

[Bishop]

It's a balance (think you know)

- Bergvall, Vuskovich are probably the ideal type of speculative youth buy
- But you have to push out sometimes, Tel may not seem that far along, but he has played two and a half seasons for Bayern, 60 appearances with 12 goals for a 19 year old wide forward, plus 16 CL appearances. He's a lot closer to certainty than you are giving him credit for.

For comparison, Lamine Yamal who I would say anyone would likely rate as a $100M player
- Is 19 years old
- In his 3rd season for Barca
- Has 66 league appearances with 11 goals and 21 CL appearances

Tel was rusty coming in, adapting to the PL in a struggling side but the data says this is a smart gamble.

Where we would fudge up is if we paid him wages that made it impossible to offload if in the long run it doesn't work out.

All good points but Yamal is 17 and honestly if you've watched him much he's absolutely the real confirmed deal. Forget 100m he's 200m+ if Barca were ever to sell. Its not just stats alone, it's game performances he's the anti Johnson if you will.

 

[Eriktheviking]

Not good enough for £60mill - or whatever the agreed fee in this region is. Lacks positional and finishing skills which he should really have. If he is as good as people think he should be doing a lot more in games. Money could be better spent.

 

[Yiddo]

One half decent game still doesn't convince me, a lot of passing backwards and trying things and losing it. Not worth £60m

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

It's a balance (think you know)

- Bergvall, Vuskovich are probably the ideal type of speculative youth buy
- But you have to push out sometimes, Tel may not seem that far along, but he has played two and a half seasons for Bayern, 60 appearances with 12 goals for a 19 year old wide forward, plus 16 CL appearances. He's a lot closer to certainty than you are giving him credit for.

For comparison, Lamine Yamal who I would say anyone would likely rate as a $100M player
- Is 19 years old
- In his 3rd season for Barca
- Has 66 league appearances with 11 goals and 21 CL appearances

Tel was rusty coming in, adapting to the PL in a struggling side but the data says this is a smart gamble.

Where we would fudge up is if we paid him wages that made it impossible to offload if in the long run it doesn't work out.

Just to point out (re Tel) the appearances don't equate to that many minutes tbf 1600 minutes in the Bunderliga and 400mins in the CL for Bayern in 2.5 seasons.

And Bayern went big on him with very littles game time with Rennes ... literally just 50 mins in Ligue 1.

Just info...no opinion

 

[Lilbaz]

I'm down for these kind of speculative purchases but I do feel you can do them at better prices than what has been reported.

Yeah I get that I was taking into account the loan fee. I'm not totally against it, it's just that it goes a little against the model I would suggest which is signing young and undervalued whereas he's closer to a peak valuation but is far from a peak player if you get what I mean.

As I say in my mind another loan with even tighter conditions would make a lot of sense for me. Even with a higher fee potentially but with more certainty of Tel as a player, but those are just my thoughts.

Tbh i don't know if he'd be a good buy or not. Basically is he the best value for £45m or is there someone out there better that we could get for similar price and wages (or less). I don't know.

 

[billyiddo]

Is he any better than Solomun?

 

[Grays_1890]

Is he any better than Solomun?

Very similar to Ode-B....not sure 60m for same same is what is needed.

Played well in week. But still