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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 83 76.1%

  • Out

    Votes: 26 23.9%
  • Total voters
    109
Raziel said:
Our attack is not brick mate, Son, Deki, Solanke, Johnson, Maddison are all pretty close to or past double figures at the half way point in season, we are consistently scoring as much as the top 3. And VVD was fudging done twice by our play today, hilarious.

Son, Solanke, Deki have played too much, and I'd argue Salah & Jota are elite players, Gapko (I've seen lots of awful play from him, Nunez and Diaz), Diaz and Nunez are decent, not great players (1 in 4 attacking players)

IT comes back to is the manager willing to use that attacking prowess for spells and limit how often you are open, especially against quality opposition
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I know they aren’t
And neither are pools
United made 5 changes to theirs to get back into it against us and obviously have some quality
Teams have good players even the weaker sides
But that’s the issue
We have good to very good pakyers
But not enough fit at the same time to interchange like pool do for example, or Chelsea do
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I know they aren’t
And neither are pools
United made 5 changes to theirs to get back into it against us and obviously have some quality
Teams have good players even the weaker sides
But that’s the issue
We have good to very good pakyers
But not enough fit at the same time to interchange like pool do for example, or Chelsea do
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We broke the pattern today though. The Xg was 4.6 vs 1.2, but we still got 3 goals. Earlier in the season our actual goals were less than the Xg.

I had a look at the BBC Match stats earlier today. So many of our stats were comparable to Pool's even with the squad we had out. Things like touches, passes, possession, forward passes, backward passes, long balls etc. However, the chances created and conceded clearly were very slanted towards them, just like the Xg.
 
Kompakted said:
They slowed down when they'd already smashed us and let us have the ball more and we are a very good attacking team, being one of the top scorers in the division.
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They and slowed down when Maddison scored?
We actually had a. Very good defensive record before today by the way
Out issue was losing certain games by a single goal. Today was the first time we have lost by more than one goal this season
 
Muttley said:
We broke the pattern today though. The Xg was 4.6 vs 1.2, but we still got 3 goals. Earlier in the season our actual goals were less than the Xg.

I had a look at the BBC Match stats earlier today. So many of our stats were comparable to Pool's even with the squad we had out. Things like touches, passes, possession, forward passes, backward passes, long balls etc. However, the chances created and conceded clearly were very slanted towards them, just like the Xg.
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What pattern do you mean?
 
Bedfordspurs said:
What pattern do you mean?
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Where our xG was more than our actual goals. Earlier on in the season, I felt we deserved to be higher in the league based on what the attackers were doing on the pitch, versus the ball hitting the back of the net. Today was clearly the other way round, as we got 3 goals and xG was 1.2.

Just shows stats should only be used as a single input for a logical argument,
 
Muttley said:
Where our xG was more than our actual goals. Earlier on in the season, I felt we deserved to be higher in the league based on what the attackers were doing on the pitch, versus the ball hitting the back of the net. Today was clearly the other way round, as we got 3 goals and xG was 1.2.

Just shows stats should only be used as a single input for a logical argument,
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True
And I agtee
We should be 5/6 points better off imo
But we for away with one against Fulham
 
Bedfordspurs said:
In your view and his of course
I used to rate his writing but he is now a click bait guy
Shame as he was being quite innovative
I’ll read it before I comment further
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So many lines that ring true to me, one paragraph in particular:

‘How have Tottenham been so unlucky as to end up with so many international footballers who seem to make terrible decisions at key moments? Are they just bad players, incapable of reading a situation? Or have they been slowly stewed in a culture…Where the acid test of your quality is not what you did, or what actually happened, but how loyally you stuck to the ideology?’
 
Mikey10 said:
So many lines that ring true to me, one paragraph in particular:

‘How have Tottenham been so unlucky as to end up with so many international footballers who seem to make terrible decisions at key moments? Are they just bad players, incapable of reading a situation? Or have they been slowly stewed in a culture…Where the acid test of your quality is not what you did, or what actually happened, but how loyally you stuck to the ideology?’
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Culture is key
We have had great players bottle it against pool since I was a kid
But the ideology can’t be why as it’s been many
Maybe it’s the mind set they are beat before entering the pitch
 
Mikey10 said:
So many lines that ring true to me, one paragraph in particular:

‘How have Tottenham been so unlucky as to end up with so many international footballers who seem to make terrible decisions at key moments? Are they just bad players, incapable of reading a situation? Or have they been slowly stewed in a culture…Where the acid test of your quality is not what you did, or what actually happened, but how loyally you stuck to the ideology?’
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This is the most pertinent paragraph in the article IMO:

“Tottenham and Liverpool may feel gulfs apart, but in reality they are the eighth- and seventh-richest clubs in the world, fishing in the same water. Tottenham could have had Arne Slot in 2023. Tottenham could have had Díaz in 2022. Tottenham could have assembled a proper backroom structure years ago, instead of leaving their fate in the hands of a spiralling succession of celebrity managers.”
 
Baleforce said:
between 08/09 and 18/19 they only finished ahead of us in the league once

during that time we beat them 8 times
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That’s 8 times more than I would guess and I’ve been there home and away loads
So we beat them 8 times and how many did they beat us?
They believe they are rbeating us every time they play us
Our record vs them is worst than against any side
 
Finney Is Back said:
This is the most pertinent paragraph in the article IMO:

“Tottenham and Liverpool may feel gulfs apart, but in reality they are the eighth- and seventh-richest clubs in the world, fishing in the same water. Tottenham could have had Arne Slot in 2023. Tottenham could have had Díaz in 2022. Tottenham could have assembled a proper backroom structure years ago, instead of leaving their fate in the hands of a spiralling succession of celebrity managers.”
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We wanted slot
He wanted to come
They wanted £15m which we wouldn’t pay
I posted on here last year before Ange that I knew some Dutch guys who were in coaching over there who told em before it was in the press (not the release fee by the way)
He is a great coach and has done so well so far
 
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