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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 84 77.1%

  • Out

    Votes: 25 22.9%
  • Total voters
    109
fernadez said:
Where has this narrative come from that our squad is poor all of a sudden.

Regardless of your Levy stance, there's no way you can say we're playing to our potential even with injuries. Injuries or the chairman doesn't stop the team being setup with structure and from not trying to kill off games in other ways than by scoring more goals.

We play so naively and then are surprised when players make naive decisions. That what culture means, what is the ethos of the team coming down from the manager. A manager who has a go at his players for trying to see a game out with a couple minutes left and says that if players make mistakes it's on him, doesn't really leave himself a lot of places to go when players make stupid decisions.

I really want him to do well but he does my head in at the same time. Get some proper experienced coaches, stop leaving men over at the far post, sending your full backs forward pointlessly. Start managing situations and scorelines and actually give yourself a chance of staying in the job. It's time for all the 'letting the players work it out on the pitch' to stop cause they cant and that's why you're in charge. They are modern footballers, they've been programmed through the system to do what you tell them to.
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You're essentially asking for a new manager.
 
thfcsteff said:
What degree of choice did he have I wonder? IF he chose to, was happy to and is not playing him, then yes, I agree. But I think there's much more to it...BTW, Neto (a player I don't like but who Ange REALLY wanted) tore us one today.
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I thought Neto was poor
Nothing came via him and he blew that chance first able when Drago blocked him
I’d have to watch it back at some point
 
Baleforce said:
Why though?

Why can’t he learn from his mistakes and do things differently?
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fernadez said:
No, I'm asking for my manager to adapt and prosper

Is it going ho or nothing then?
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Because THIS is what Ange Postecoglu does. WE knew it when we got him. Munn knew it. Lange knew it. The club knew it. He told everyone, and has been telling everyone, this is what he does, end of. IF we expect anything different, it's like committing to a week of the same aggressive chicken curry, getting the bricks on Wednesday, and instantly wanting that curry to become a chicken cacciatore! We've committed to it, so we're going to have to develop the intestinal fortitude to DEAL with it, or throw the whole fudging thing out and buy new food!

(I admit I have stretched metaphor to a new level/low, but it made me giggle and makes some sense?)
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I thought Neto was poor
Nothing came via him and he blew that chance first able when Drago blocked him
I’d have to watch it back at some point
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He constantly kept us honest. I am not a fan, however my point is, Ange wanted him and we wouldn't park the wages.
 
fernadez said:
Where has this narrative come from that our squad is poor all of a sudden.

Regardless of your Levy stance, there's no way you can say we're playing to our potential even with injuries. Injuries or the chairman doesn't stop the team being setup with structure and from not trying to kill off games in other ways than by scoring more goals.

We play so naively and then are surprised when players make naive decisions. That what culture means, what is the ethos of the team coming down from the manager. A manager who has a go at his players for trying to see a game out with a couple minutes left and says that if players make mistakes it's on him, doesn't really leave himself a lot of places to go when players make stupid decisions.

I really want him to do well but he does my head in at the same time. Get some proper experienced coaches, stop leaving men over at the far post, sending your full backs forward pointlessly. Start managing situations and scorelines and actually give yourself a chance of staying in the job. It's time for all the 'letting the players work it out on the pitch' to stop cause they cant and that's why you're in charge. They are modern footballers, they've been programmed through the system to do what you tell them to.
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It's not all of a sudden, many have said our squad is overrated on here for some time and the Kane/Son partnership papered a lot of cracks. How many of our players you reckon top 4 teams would take?

Vicrio? Good shot stopper but not particularly commanding
Romero? The guy who is constantly rash and only reliable fitness wise when on international duty
Porro? A RB who isn't really a defender (I like him as a player mind)
VDV? Potential, bags of pace but not actually a great defender and has been exposed a fair few times now
Udogie? Potential but not been good for some time now, always easier to look good at first when you're an unknown quantity to the league
Maddison? I like him, but can't argue he's I consistent
Kulu? Yes, becoming a very good player
All of our CMs - Decent but nothing special and way too inconsistent
Wing forwards are injury prone/can't finish/past their sell by date only one Id keep is Johnson because he at least has shown he can hit the back of the net but the fact he's our top scorer says about how great our squad is
Solanke? I really like him, at the moment he's hardly posting numbers that will be making the big boys jealous though

This is just the starting eleven, and barley enough to compete with the big boys but once you go past that when we have injuries it is just mainly youngsters with potential who you can't hang your hat on at the moment....
 
Gutter Boy said:
We've got a much better squad than Bournemouth. But he's got Bournemouth 4 points ahead of us.

We just need to use the squad much more smartly - Spence, Regulion, Lankshear and even Dorrington should have had minutes over the last month, so the rest of the players aren't so injured and fatigued.
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Bournemouth have a good recruitment department and also the advantage of playing one game a week….

His style of outrunning the opposition will also fail at Spurs when the club give him the standard small squad of players to cope with both PL and EL football

Oh and Lankshear and Donley are nowhere near yet ready for first team football.
 
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