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What would YOUR priority signing be in the Jan transfer window?

Looking at our squad (and the abundance of players we have out injured at the moment ("For fcuk sake Ange!") I think there are a few areas in which we are weak assuming a fully fit squad.

IMO the most pressing needs and left back and goalkeeper.

We lose too much of an attacking threat on the left playing the (very) right footed Spence on the left hand side. Worse than that it also often leads to us having to defend because our pattern of play that sees the ball go out to the fullback from the keeper or centre back, usually sees a reasonably simple ball or run down the line for the fullback than often results in a throw in to us at worst. Spence instead turns back infield and towards trouble. Who we go for to provide competition to Udogie depends on whether we have decent funds or not.

If we have a decent pot to spend then Antonee Robinson or Theo Hernandez would be great signings, though it might be hard to sign them and keep them happy. A younger alternative who I think is going right to the top is Nathaniel Brown at Frankfurt. Rico Henry is a good shout and I think a move to a big club would appeal to him at this stage of his career and I wonder whether Brentford would allow him to go for a not too ridiculous fee with him being out of contract this summer. Also has the advantage of having worked with Frank previously.

If looking to the championship then, as I've said before Leif Davis has a lot about him (though I think Ipswich would want upwards of £25m). The other left backs who have impressed me in the Championship have been Harrison Burrows at Sheffield United and Liam Millar at Hull (I thought he looked very good last season when on loan at Preston).

On to the goalkeeper.... while Vic's shot stopping is largely very good. I don't think we can continue to carry a keeper who isn't great (to say the least) with his feet and constantly rooted to his line and poor at dealing with crosses. There are shedloads of keepers better than him out there IMO, or at least ones more suited to the physicality of PL football. Again it depends on how much we've got to spend. If big money then Kobel at Dortmund is very good. Obliak at Atletico Madrid is another who is superb but I think only a bid well over the odds persuades either team to sell. We therefore probably have to look to do something a bit more clever..... Maybe a move for Mike Maignan from AC Milan. He is out of contract this summer and getting him in would allow us to loan out Kinsky (who I think needs to play to develop). Try to a pre contract deal for him in January and then persuade Milan to sell for a few million after securing him for the summer.

Otherwise I don't think we need that much. We look short of a centre forward but a lot of that is Solanke being out and Muani then being injured. I think with Solanke, Muani, Richarlison and Tel (and Scarlett) we have that position covered. Probably not with enough quality but I see Summer as being the right time to address that and not January.

I think we're well set at centre back with Romero, Van Der Ven, Danso, Dragusin back soon, Takai (assuming he isn't a perma-crock) and Phillips and Vuskovic out on loan for longer term options).
We're also well set at right back with Porro and Spence.
We have options on the right with Kudus, Johnson and Bergval.
Same on the left with Odobert and also the likes of Simons, Richarlison, Tel and even Muani being able to operate from the left as well as Mikey Moore out on loan.
We have Palhinha, Bentancur and Gray who can play as the deep midfielder.
We have Sarr and Bergval who can both play the 8 role, I think Gray could also do a good job there.
We have Maddison, Simmons and Kulu who can all play as a number 10 type, as well as a few players like Kudus and Tel who can probably fill in there).

Left back and goalkeeper are the glaring weak spots for me and those would be my january priority.
 
And we ain't winning the CL, so its not a priority for them to have to be able to play in it, we should, like you say concentrate on players that improve us for the next 4/5 years and are logical, which is something we have failed to do for years.
Especially as we have two players in Gray and Bergval who will be able to go on the A list next year and be classed as club trained one more year after that.
 
Looking at our squad (and the abundance of players we have out injured at the moment ("For fcuk sake Ange!") I think there are a few areas in which we are weak assuming a fully fit squad.

IMO the most pressing needs and left back and goalkeeper.

We lose too much of an attacking threat on the left playing the (very) right footed Spence on the left hand side. Worse than that it also often leads to us having to defend because our pattern of play that sees the ball go out to the fullback from the keeper or centre back, usually sees a reasonably simple ball or run down the line for the fullback than often results in a throw in to us at worst. Spence instead turns back infield and towards trouble. Who we go for to provide competition to Udogie depends on whether we have decent funds or not.

If we have a decent pot to spend then Antonee Robinson or Theo Hernandez would be great signings, though it might be hard to sign them and keep them happy. A younger alternative who I think is going right to the top is Nathaniel Brown at Frankfurt. Rico Henry is a good shout and I think a move to a big club would appeal to him at this stage of his career and I wonder whether Brentford would allow him to go for a not too ridiculous fee with him being out of contract this summer. Also has the advantage of having worked with Frank previously.

If looking to the championship then, as I've said before Leif Davis has a lot about him (though I think Ipswich would want upwards of £25m). The other left backs who have impressed me in the Championship have been Harrison Burrows at Sheffield United and Liam Millar at Hull (I thought he looked very good last season when on loan at Preston).

On to the goalkeeper.... while Vic's shot stopping is largely very good. I don't think we can continue to carry a keeper who isn't great (to say the least) with his feet and constantly rooted to his line and poor at dealing with crosses. There are shedloads of keepers better than him out there IMO, or at least ones more suited to the physicality of PL football. Again it depends on how much we've got to spend. If big money then Kobel at Dortmund is very good. Obliak at Atletico Madrid is another who is superb but I think only a bid well over the odds persuades either team to sell. We therefore probably have to look to do something a bit more clever..... Maybe a move for Mike Maignan from AC Milan. He is out of contract this summer and getting him in would allow us to loan out Kinsky (who I think needs to play to develop). Try to a pre contract deal for him in January and then persuade Milan to sell for a few million after securing him for the summer.

Otherwise I don't think we need that much. We look short of a centre forward but a lot of that is Solanke being out and Muani then being injured. I think with Solanke, Muani, Richarlison and Tel (and Scarlett) we have that position covered. Probably not with enough quality but I see Summer as being the right time to address that and not January.

I think we're well set at centre back with Romero, Van Der Ven, Danso, Dragusin back soon, Takai (assuming he isn't a perma-crock) and Phillips and Vuskovic out on loan for longer term options).
We're also well set at right back with Porro and Spence.
We have options on the right with Kudus, Johnson and Bergval.
Same on the left with Odobert and also the likes of Simons, Richarlison, Tel and even Muani being able to operate from the left as well as Mikey Moore out on loan.
We have Palhinha, Bentancur and Gray who can play as the deep midfielder.
We have Sarr and Bergval who can both play the 8 role, I think Gray could also do a good job there.
We have Maddison, Simmons and Kulu who can all play as a number 10 type, as well as a few players like Kudus and Tel who can probably fill in there).

Left back and goalkeeper are the glaring weak spots for me and those would be my january priority.

Agree with that analysis re the positions you mentioned. The only part I disagree is the forwards. Ours are below average so I’d like at LW and CF as the main priorities.

100% agree about Vicario though.
 
Not going to happen unless we sell Richie.
It would be a huge help if we can play the market well and offload Richie and Johnson and someone else like Veliz (Solomon?) for "OK" money, and maybe loan out a few more, and use that cash and wages-saving to put towards getting someone better.

We have a lot lot lot lot lot of 'forward players' plus a huge number of kids with potential where you might say they aren't ready, but we ain't gonna sell them when they have so much promise.

Sooooo many 'attack-first-players' that I had to go look it up and I still probably forgot someone, to fill just 4 slots in a game.

Do we really need more? The production line can keep chugging along unless we get some really big need or some really good deal.

Note we could play 1 or 2 or 3 "strikers" or we could play 1 or 2 or 3 "ballers" depending on how we want to play.

EDIT - I'm aware I'm talking to myself already, but this list is intriguing to me. Soooo many options to pick 4 really good 'forward' players and rotate them.

Strikers
Solanke - GOOD ENOUGH
Kolo Muani - GOOD ENOUGH
Richie - SELL
Tel - LIKELY TO BE GOOD ENOUGH

Ballers
Maddison - GOOD ENOUGH
XaviSimons - GOOD ENOUGH
Kudus - GOOD ENOUGH
Deki - GOOD ENOUGH
Odobert - GOOD ENOUGH

Young great prospect ballers
Bergvall - GOOD ENOUGH
Moore - LIKELY TO BE GOOD ENOUGH
Yang - UNKNOWN

Very young strikers
Scarlett - UNKNOWN
Lankshear - UNKNOWN
Veliz - SELL
Melia - UNKNOWN

Other / expendable / what are they
Johnson - SELL
Solomon still ours? - SELL

Very talented, very young, home grown, ballers
Donley - LOOKING OK
TyreseHall (MoM tonight) - LOOKING OK
Luca Williams Barnett - LOOKING GOOD

Embryo forwards
Akhamrich OllieIrow Lehane Ajayi Elliott-Paris TyThompson Boast
 
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Looking at our squad (and the abundance of players we have out injured at the moment ("For fcuk sake Ange!") I think there are a few areas in which we are weak assuming a fully fit squad.

IMO the most pressing needs and left back and goalkeeper.

We lose too much of an attacking threat on the left playing the (very) right footed Spence on the left hand side. Worse than that it also often leads to us having to defend because our pattern of play that sees the ball go out to the fullback from the keeper or centre back, usually sees a reasonably simple ball or run down the line for the fullback than often results in a throw in to us at worst. Spence instead turns back infield and towards trouble. Who we go for to provide competition to Udogie depends on whether we have decent funds or not.

If we have a decent pot to spend then Antonee Robinson or Theo Hernandez would be great signings, though it might be hard to sign them and keep them happy. A younger alternative who I think is going right to the top is Nathaniel Brown at Frankfurt. Rico Henry is a good shout and I think a move to a big club would appeal to him at this stage of his career and I wonder whether Brentford would allow him to go for a not too ridiculous fee with him being out of contract this summer. Also has the advantage of having worked with Frank previously.

If looking to the championship then, as I've said before Leif Davis has a lot about him (though I think Ipswich would want upwards of £25m). The other left backs who have impressed me in the Championship have been Harrison Burrows at Sheffield United and Liam Millar at Hull (I thought he looked very good last season when on loan at Preston).

On to the goalkeeper.... while Vic's shot stopping is largely very good. I don't think we can continue to carry a keeper who isn't great (to say the least) with his feet and constantly rooted to his line and poor at dealing with crosses. There are shedloads of keepers better than him out there IMO, or at least ones more suited to the physicality of PL football. Again it depends on how much we've got to spend. If big money then Kobel at Dortmund is very good. Obliak at Atletico Madrid is another who is superb but I think only a bid well over the odds persuades either team to sell. We therefore probably have to look to do something a bit more clever..... Maybe a move for Mike Maignan from AC Milan. He is out of contract this summer and getting him in would allow us to loan out Kinsky (who I think needs to play to develop). Try to a pre contract deal for him in January and then persuade Milan to sell for a few million after securing him for the summer.

Otherwise I don't think we need that much. We look short of a centre forward but a lot of that is Solanke being out and Muani then being injured. I think with Solanke, Muani, Richarlison and Tel (and Scarlett) we have that position covered. Probably not with enough quality but I see Summer as being the right time to address that and not January.

I think we're well set at centre back with Romero, Van Der Ven, Danso, Dragusin back soon, Takai (assuming he isn't a perma-crock) and Phillips and Vuskovic out on loan for longer term options).
We're also well set at right back with Porro and Spence.
We have options on the right with Kudus, Johnson and Bergval.
Same on the left with Odobert and also the likes of Simons, Richarlison, Tel and even Muani being able to operate from the left as well as Mikey Moore out on loan.
We have Palhinha, Bentancur and Gray who can play as the deep midfielder.
We have Sarr and Bergval who can both play the 8 role, I think Gray could also do a good job there.
We have Maddison, Simmons and Kulu who can all play as a number 10 type, as well as a few players like Kudus and Tel who can probably fill in there).

Left back and goalkeeper are the glaring weak spots for me and those would be my january priority.
Good overview.

Personally I don't think a goalie is a big priority, more of a "if someone properly better is available" type situation, particularly in January.

I agree that another LB would be really good. Attacking, overlapping left footed type. Ideally with great passing and crossing.

I do also think there are other solutions to the problems as you describe them. A Kudus level ball progressing left winger would minimise the negative impact of Spence playing on the left. A really good deep playmaker in midfield would imo give us so many more options in our possession game. Not my preferred option, but a really good target man striker (Toney type player) would give us a much improved direct route.

Like a proper attacking left footed left back those "solutions" would give us more and better options in our attacking play.

The good thing about going for a left back instead would be that it wouldn't end up blocking the paths for some of our younger talents. Bergvall, Gray, possibly Hall in midfield. Odobert, Moore at left wing.

But if we're looking to really spend a significant part of that reported 100m injection and push on in January with a more short term focus a new left back and a really good deep playmaker, left winger or striker would be the way to go imo.

I know on the striker front we're yet to see what Kolo Muani and Solanke can do for us and under Frank. But mention it anyway. I doubt a really good striker is on the table for January, but more in theory.
 
Good overview.

Personally I don't think a goalie is a big priority, more of a "if someone properly better is available" type situation, particularly in January.

I agree that another LB would be really good. Attacking, overlapping left footed type. Ideally with great passing and crossing.

I do also think there are other solutions to the problems as you describe them. A Kudus level ball progressing left winger would minimise the negative impact of Spence playing on the left. A really good deep playmaker in midfield would imo give us so many more options in our possession game. Not my preferred option, but a really good target man striker (Toney type player) would give us a much improved direct route.

Like a proper attacking left footed left back those "solutions" would give us more and better options in our attacking play.

The good thing about going for a left back instead would be that it wouldn't end up blocking the paths for some of our younger talents. Bergvall, Gray, possibly Hall in midfield. Odobert, Moore at left wing.

But if we're looking to really spend a significant part of that reported 100m injection and push on in January with a more short term focus a new left back and a really good deep playmaker, left winger or striker would be the way to go imo.

I know on the striker front we're yet to see what Kolo Muani and Solanke can do for us and under Frank. But mention it anyway. I doubt a really good striker is on the table for January, but more in theory.

When I read these fantastic exchanges about how to improve the squad, that voice in my head keeps saying "quality over quantity". The other voice keeps saying "start doing a better job of shifting players".

We've had this conversation before but we're now into that cycle where we can actually do both things and do them well for the next phase. The big question is will we? If we don't, then I just think it will be more of the same.

Whether we like it or not, our squad is starting to bloat. We have a generation of academy players coming of age and there will need to be some tough decisions made. That might be flogging them for the best price or creating a path for them to prosper.

Interestingly, I wholeheartedly agree with the comments about needing a left footed left back to balance Udogie in the squad. Problem is, I've not really been convinced by the answers as to who we should buy. That leads me to your school of thought about negating the Spence problem by buying a left winger. I'm left wondering whether we should just go all in for Semenyo. Make him our "quality over quantity" signing" whilst shifting 2 or 3 in Jan.
 
More about the quality of player we can actually sign than one particular position. A LW, striker, deep playmaker left back option would probably be the priority positions. But within that if we can sign a class player in either position that would be better than a good player in whatever we think is the biggest priority.

I definitely can see the reasoning behind a Semenyo type signing and think he would be excellent. My dream would be a Wharton type deep playmaker though. Think he/someone like that would not only be really good, but mean that we got more out of the players already here than a Semenyo type.

On paper signing these two would be transformative. But as we've seen with pool, reality is different, and how much of our poor play is linked to time, settling in, refining things, stability etc? We should have a better idea by Xmas.

Semenyo and a midfielder who's able to dictate games would be amazing for us, addressing the two biggest holes in our team.
 
And we ain't winning the CL, so its not a priority for them to have to be able to play in it, we should, like you say concentrate on players that improve us for the next 4/5 years and are logical, which is something we have failed to do for years.

Well no we won’t win it with that mindset 😉. We should be giving our all to win every competition and then see how it lands. I doubt most of us truly believed we could reach the Final in 2019, yet we did. And if not for an absolute piece of flimflam referee decision, we could well have won the competition.
 
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On paper signing these two would be transformative. But as we've seen with pool, reality is different, and how much of our poor play is linked to time, settling in, refining things, stability etc? We should have a better idea by Xmas.

Semenyo and a midfielder who's able to dictate games would be amazing for us, addressing the two biggest holes in our team.
Obviously some settling in period should be expected. But signings should be made with a somewhat longer term focus as well.

Don't have opinions on Liverpool, but in general I think settling in periods also depends a lot in if the player is used to and capable of playing the role the manager and team needs already.

Take Simons. Had we played a different style that better used his strengths I think most likely his settling in period would have been shorter. VdV settling in period was seemingly just him putting on his boots, in part imo because our playing style suited his skills and strengths really well.

To me Wharton and Semenyo are players who would be very much suited to both what we need (existing shortcomings) and how we play. Particularly Wharton.
 
Well no we won’t win it with that mindset 😉. We should be giving our all to win every competition and then see how it lands. I doubt most of us truly believers we could reach the Final in 2019, yet we did. And if not for an absolute piece of flimflam referee decision, we could well have won the competition.

Haha

Well the point being that if a player presented himself in Jan that makes us much better but could not play in this season CL, we should still secure them
 
Obviously some settling in period should be expected. But signings should be made with a somewhat longer term focus as well.

Don't have opinions on Liverpool, but in general I think settling in periods also depends a lot in if the player is used to and capable of playing the role the manager and team needs already.

Take Simons. Had we played a different style that better used his strengths I think most likely his settling in period would have been shorter. VdV settling in period was seemingly just him putting on his boots, in part imo because our playing style suited his skills and strengths really well.
It's not just players, its management settling in. Finding what works and what doesn't. Tweaking things so they work etc. That takes time.

To me Wharton and Semenyo are players who would be very much suited to both what we need (existing shortcomings) and how we play. Particularly Wharton.

Agreed. But it is far easier to drop into an established well-oiled team. We aren't that yet. All over the pitch we're work in progress. Maybe the defence is more stable. But then we let in two free headers last game.

But agree, with more quality in midfield to a. avoid the opposition press and b. make passes we would be a better side. And if had a balanced left side that was effective ,we'd also be much improved. However, I see Frank's work on these things with the players we have. Certain games we've seen Bentancur progressing the ball more through the middle. Its complex, United had a week off, we played twice, so they will be able to run and restrict us more. Yet I can see more intent and more refinement happening here with the current crop. And whoever we buy will likely need that too because we're not an oiled machine.

Similar on the left, Frank is still trying different things. Using the LB to get an extra man in midfield - didn't work against United. But it can. It can be refined. Getting Odobert crossing. Things are happening. There is progress. Its not always evident on the pitch in every game. Two steps forward one back often.
 
Watching England v Serbia tonight, there were some good players on show.
The City left back O'Neill slotted in like he'd always been an international, very good. Maybe we can sign him when City get bored in 6 months and try to offload him.
Can we winkle some out of Forest when they flirt with going down e.g. Elliot Anderson, Milenkovic?
 
It's not just players, its management settling in. Finding what works and what doesn't. Tweaking things so they work etc. That takes time.



Agreed. But it is far easier to drop into an established well-oiled team. We aren't that yet. All over the pitch we're work in progress. Maybe the defence is more stable. But then we let in two free headers last game.

But agree, with more quality in midfield to a. avoid the opposition press and b. make passes we would be a better side. And if had a balanced left side that was effective ,we'd also be much improved. However, I see Frank's work on these things with the players we have. Certain games we've seen Bentancur progressing the ball more through the middle. Its complex, United had a week off, we played twice, so they will be able to run and restrict us more. Yet I can see more intent and more refinement happening here with the current crop. And whoever we buy will likely need that too because we're not an oiled machine.

Similar on the left, Frank is still trying different things. Using the LB to get an extra man in midfield - didn't work against United. But it can. It can be refined. Getting Odobert crossing. Things are happening. There is progress. It’s not always evident on the pitch in every game. Two steps forward one back often.
Disagree on the left back thing
It did work vs united when we had one on the pitch
 
Watching England v Serbia tonight, there were some good players on show.
The City left back O'Neill slotted in like he'd always been an international, very good. Maybe we can sign him when City get bored in 6 months and try to offload him.
Can we winkle some out of Forest when they flirt with going down e.g. Elliot Anderson, Milenkovic?
quite sure we have to improve our wage structure to afford any city player
or make the player accept less
 
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