Sunday's game at White Hart Lane was, it appears, one of the hardest to watch live (outside the ground) ever. Indeed scouring websites and tv listings, I was reduced to watching the brief, brief, brief highlights on Match Of the Day.
So then we're four games into the Ramos era. I read over the weekend and today also that some people - journalists and fans alike, are not seeing any changes - and that Spurs were simply lucky to come up against a team currently in worse form that they were.
Four games is not a huge amount of time, given the current situation to influence the side. Equally disruptive is going to have been that the four games have been in three competitions, two different countries, and now lead into an International break.
As fans we should be grateful that at this time we are experiencing the usual upturn in form associated with a new manager - 4 games unbeaten is a timely boost, and despite playing poorly for most of the season, Spurs are not out of any of the 4 competitions that they entered at the start of the campaign.
There have already been positives though. Defensively conceeding one goal in four games is no mean feat - especially when the precedent had been conceeding at least 2 per game for the previous ten games. Standard of opposition aside, Spurs have become more miserly at the back. This is a seriously positive step forwards, as are the noises coming from Paul Robinson, that he feels more confident and has apparently been very vocal at the back.
In other areas, Jermain Jenas must be pleased with his week - two goals and a baby to brighten his mood, and for such a confidence player, it was crucial to see Aaron Lennon getting in amongst the goals at the weekend. Robbie Keane, for once not the scorer, turned creator for the first goal and Berbatov's role was as the ring leader to the whole game. Steed has also played pretty well of late and in Bale's absence has held up that side well. The defence still has a King shaped hole in it - but is looking a little more stable, although even in the brief footage on MOTD there was evidence of the central pairing still not having the best understanding.
People are going to cry out for new signings, and no doubt they will come when the window opens, however there is also a huge need for the players already at the club to be well coached. Whatever the thoughts of the masses on Martin Jol's methods, its apparent that Ramos has already started to install his own methodology to Spurs play, and if the players continue to respond in the same vein, there is no reason for wholesale changes in the January window. Going forward the side looks as good as it has done all season, granted there was never a lot wrong with the attacking play - in midfield questions still remain about the roles of individuals, and apparently the fitness of others - like Tom Huddlestone.
Defensively Ledley King is going to resemble a £20m signing when he returns, and it appears Paul Stalteri when fit is going to offer options other than the staple diet of Pascal Chimbonda. The return to fitness of Gareth Bale will offer a valuable insight into Ramos' thinking - he is the most similar player at Spurs to Daniel Alves, a precocious talent with ability in all positions down the left - Alves was deployed as a pseudo-wingback by Ramos, will he opt to play Bale in a similar fashion?
So then, four games, three clean sheets, a return to form for Berbatov, and a new resolute attitude from all parties - all this leaves the question - how much damage did the first ten games of the season do to Spurs chances? Thats an answer we'll have to wait more than four games to find out.